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[DeLgAdO]

Greek mythology is embodied explicitly in a large collection of narratives and implicitly in representational arts, such as vase-paintings and votive gifts. Greek myth explains the origins of the world and details the lives and adventures of a wide variety of gods, goddesses, heroes, heroines, and other mythological creatures. These accounts were initially disseminated in an oral-poetic tradition; the Greek myths are known today primarily from Greek literature.

We do not get into heaven by being "good". We are saved by faith and grace, not good works.


all have sinned and fallen short of gods glory, and the wage for sin is death. So we truely deserve death and hell (eternal death).

adding to that. The Middle Ages are commonly dated from the fall of the Western Roman Empire (or by some scholars, before that) in the 5th century to the beginning of the Early Modern Period in the 16th century, marked by the rise of nation-states, the division of Christianity in the Reformation, the rise of humanism in the Italian Renaissance, and the beginnings of European overseas expansion which allowed for the Columbian Exchange.

things truely came into full effect the moment christ died and was ressurected.

 

[DeLgAdO]

and thats a pathetic way to explain something... god should not allow them to do it.... and if it is part of his grand plan then that is one F'ed up god that plans for children to be raped ... after all everything in our life is part of his grand plan....

"Fd up"? he technically doesnt have to save anyone. It is us who are "fd up". He is holy, righteous and perfect.

“the heart is wicked and deceitful above all things” (Jeremiah 17:9)

all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23).

He doesnt intend of saving everyone by the way. Only his elect, who are his elect? we dont know, they are scattered abroad throughout the world. And its my job as a believer to evangelize them by spreading the truth and bringing those back to the lord. His pefect plan is only for those who trust and believe in him, the rest are doomed to the lake of fire.

And if they are saved by God's kindness, then it is not by their good works. For in that case, God's wonderful kindness would not be what it really is - free and undeserved" (Romans 11:6).

though he can do anything he wants to us he will not because he is good, loving and merciful. God is love, he has loved us because he has loved us. There is no reason for him to love us, his love is unconditional.

you my friend seem to be blind to the light

but he has control over all the minds that do not belong to God. "Satan, the god of this evil world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe, so they are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News that is shining upon them. They don't understand the message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God"

(2 Corinthians 4:4).

 

[rmorse]

I'm back...and you never addressed my questions Del

 

[DeLgAdO]

I really really REALLY have to go, but I want to touch on this...


Del, whats with the inconsistency? In the OT, there are stories of a great flood killing the sinners, of a city destroyed b/c of sinners, yet when someone like Hitler comes around, God does nothing?

Del, I also wanted to clarify something. I am not trying to attack you. I was born and raised Roman Catholic, and in the past 3 or so years have SERIOUSLY questioned my "beliefs". I quote beliefs, b/c at this point, I don't really have any religious beliefs. I am focusing in on you b/c you are very knowledgeable in this subject, and I am sincere when I say that I want to learn. Sorry if I seem harsh.

To be continued, off to my dinner date.....

what do you mean he did nothing?

did the allies not defeat the axis? did we not liberate the jews and put an end to the concentration camps?, and the other nations that where annexed by germany? there are times when god does call nations to go to war. Against nations that Bring aggression, injustice, and genocide and the desire for ideological supremacy, geographical expansion, or economic gain (Those last three dont justify a war btw).


war is always a result of sin.

You should question the teachings of the roman catholic church because their teaching are not in line with what the bible teaches. In fact alot of it condradicts what the bible teaches. catholics are a denomination of christianity, not true biblical christianity itself.

 

[rmorse]

But see, how can you say He did that? Did we not come, and drive out all of the Native Americans?

Or is it just when something good happens, God caused it (or had divine intervention) and when something bad happens its free will?

Also, the flood and the city thing is GODS DIRECT HAND. Nothing else. That is waaaay different then Him helping the "good guys" when.

Are you married?

 

[rmorse]

GF just called me...I shall return triumphantly later this evening

 

[DeLgAdO]

But see, how can you say He did that? Did we not come, and drive out all of the Native Americans?

Or is it just when something good happens, God caused it (or had divine intervention) and when something bad happens its free will?

Also, the flood and the city thing is GODS DIRECT HAND. Nothing else. That is waaaay different then Him helping the "good guys" when.

Are you married?

im 21 no im not married, i like to be. but the time has not come for that yet.

ah the great flood. We shall handle these issues one at a time

the reason he did that was because all of man kind was evil

check it out bud

starts at chapter 6 but imma go to 6:5

6:5- Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thought of his heart was only evil continually.

for that reason is why he wiped out everyone but noah who found grace in his gods eyes. they where ALL ONLY evil CONTINUALLY.

6:6- And the LORD was sorry that he made man on the earth and he was grieved in his heart .

6:7- so the LORD said " i will destroy man whom i have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping things and birds of the air, for i am sorry that i made them" .

skipping down afew more verses

6:9 This is the genealogy of noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. noah walked with god.

few more down

6:11 The earth was also corrupt before god, and the earth was filled with violence.

6:12- So god looked upon the earth and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.

there is again the word all.

all but Noah.


read post #57 as i talk about free will

ill be back in afew

 

[FSM]

So basically god screwed up. That doesn't sound very godlike to me...

 

[is300zx]

Yup if god is so "perfect" why he created man in the first place lol. And if he created everything wouldn't he have created evil as well? Religious fanatics have the screwiest logic of them all.

 

[FSM]

The flying spaghetti monster is the one true deity. Bow down to his noodley goodness, and you will be blessed far beyond the capabilities of any meager miracle bread.