PH Level?

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Aye, although pH of 7 is neutral, different fish lives in different pHs in nature.

The fish you mentioned for example, have a wide range of pH ranges. Clown loaches and tetras require lower pH, rainbowfish and geophagus required higher pH. Well rainbowfish varies greatly, but the ones sold overseas are mostly high pHers.

However it mostly does not matter, most fish (especially cichlids) in the hobby are quite resilient and can easily thrive in pH outside of their natural range (provided it's not extreme). It's more important to have a constant pH than anything.

Depending on what test you're performing, you'll see the different pH as different colors. They should have a comparison in your test kit, for your specific test.

With that said, STOP CYCLING THE TANK DUDE AND THROW YOUR FISH IN. :3

Um, I'm confused. I thought geos required a lower ph?
 
So you're adding clown loaches into a freshly cycled aquarium? Good luck!!

Im curious what you mean by this statement? I was considering adding clown loaches to one of my tanks to control snails as I'm sure I will have them with my new plants I put in.
 
So you're adding clown loaches into a freshly cycled aquarium? Good luck!!

Hey well this isn't an ordinary freshly tank cycle....about 2 months into it... able to bring approximately 4ppm of ammonia down to 0 in less then 12 hours...as well as leaving nitrites at 0..

Pretty confident they will do alright.

Also about the geo ph levels...apparently according to few articles geos have a varid ph level range...I will double check
 
These are some links on the ph issue that I'm having (trying tot see if 7 would be ideal..as it wolld be difficult for me to keep the ph at a constant level imo)

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=465 (good site?)

http://www.cichlidforums.com/showthread.php?25186-Correct-PH-levels-for-Geophagus (not the right geo, but I think geos come from the same area if not mistaken)

http://diszhal.info/english/cichlids/en_Geophagus_surinamensis.php (good site? different geo)

Thier are more sites that vary between 6.5 upwards 7.5.... I really wish peathenster would come back online...guessing he's on a long vacation...I do plan on buying the geos from him...guess I will try to mimic whatever ph he has them in.

Thanks A Million for al your help, btw fishbrains I don't know why the ph was blue..I will ask her to check it again and maybe she gets different results...or check her tap.
 
Im curious what you mean by this statement? I was considering adding clown loaches to one of my tanks to control snails as I'm sure I will have them with my new plants I put in.

CLs are more sensitive to water quality than most aquarium fish, and adding them to a "new" tank (even after being cycled usually isn't recommended. Sounds like the OP has done a good job of cycling it so hopefully it will be ok.


Pazzoman, don't get too hung up on pH, mine can fluctuate from mid 6 to just over 7 in the space of a week between water changes. Have you checked your GH, KH and TDS? They will give you a better idea of the mineral content of your water and how suitable it is for species like Geophagus and CLs that prefer SOFT water (which is different to water with a low pH).
 
CLs are more sensitive to water quality than most aquarium fish, and adding them to a "new" tank (even after being cycled usually isn't recommended. Sounds like the OP has done a good job of cycling it so hopefully it will be ok.


Pazzoman, don't get too hung up on pH, mine can fluctuate from mid 6 to just over 7 in the space of a week between water changes. Have you checked your GH, KH and TDS? They will give you a better idea of the mineral content of your water and how suitable it is for species like Geophagus and CLs that prefer SOFT water (which is different to water with a low pH).

Hey thanks for the help I will look into it as I think I know someone who has all that equipment. Will check it thanks again
 
The most important thing about ph is having it be steady and stable. It is very diffacult to adjust water chemistry long term without special equiptment and it is much easire to acclamate your fish to the ph of your tape water. Unless you have luqid rock I wouldn't worry abou it too much, acclamate your new fish slowly over a few hours to you current tank water and thay should be fine. It also makes water changes much easier.
 
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