Picky Azul

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davenmandy

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I've owned an azul, close to 7.5 inches now, for about 3 or 4 months, maybe a bit longer. From the very beginning he was very timid, always hid, doesnt like to come to the front of the glass unless hes really really hungry. He's in a tank with a 4.5 inch broko and a 4 inch xingu, as well as a 5 inch tig. He stalks the tig a bit which is what is concerning me as my old mono ate my TSN last christmas eve. So I used freeze dried krill and freeze dried shrimp to get them onto pellets, or non live, since they are all wild caught and thats all theyve ever know. It worked with amazing success for the broko and the xingu, they SMOKE the top for pellets now and I can just pump em full of food now to get em into my big tank soon. Problem is the azul, who was so picky with food to begin with, doesn't touch the pellets. He did take the krill and shrimp every now and again, but most times hed spit them out. One or two pieces. I should tell you as a bass he was always a strange eater, when I first got him I dumped in 10 rosy red minnows and he only ate about 2 an hour. Never owned a bass that didn't devour all minnows in the tank within minutes, especially since he was a decent size. Since the broko and the xingu are doing so great on pellets I don't want to put anymore live in there, but I also don't want the much smaller xingu and tig to become the azuls desperate meal. I have tried smelt and shrimp, I think the azul tried a shrimp once and never again. Any suggestions? Go back to just krill and dry shrimp for a bit? Starve the azul? Toss in a big goldfish or two? At what point is too long and should I cave and just give em minnows again? The broko and xingu always go to the glass right before feeding and smoke the top as soon as it hits, the azul just kinda hides around the decoration and shows little interest. I don't want to hinder the progress I've made getting the other two off live, but the azul already chases the xingu and gets all dark around the tig. I have yet to try massivore because I didn't wanna mess with a good thing with the floating stuff and them hitting the top, and my guess is I should probably cut off the pellets and try to coax him onto the krill and dry shrimp, but I'd like to hear your guys advice.

Thanks.

P.s. As soon as I sell my Temensis and Mono this weekend there will be no threat to put the azul into my 400 gallon with a 11 inch kelberi, 10 inch orino, and 8 inch guyana ocell, and they all eat both pellets, shrimp, smelt, and worms, with teh exception of the ocell which was recently wild caught and only just started eating only worms after being starved for a month. The orino is a bit mean, and will definitely harass him for the first couple days, but considering how timid it is, what are your guys thoughts of the other bass teaching the azul how/what to eat? Didn't work the best with the ocell but he did at least get onto worms, but he was always calm and nothing ever touched him or bothered him, and he does show slight interest in other food but as you all know when bass hit the food, its f'in crazy in there and he is too new and small to throw his hat in the ring yet, the azul would be slightly smaller than him.
 
Put all the bass that are eating pellets in the bigger tank and keep the Azul in the smaller tank in till he learns to eat pellets or so. OR, dump all the bass in the bigger tank and feed them as so. Monkey see, monkey do.


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4 inch xingu and 5 inch broko would be meals in the big tank, 11 inch kelberi and orino would destroy them. But you think if I tossed the azul in the big tank that would make a sudden ever considering he sees the small fish kill pellets?


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Well guy bailed on picking up my big fish this weekend so I can't put the azul into the big tank quite yet. However, I woke up this morning and my xingu looked terrible, all black, really jumpy, laying on the bottom sand. I think he may have had a rough night being chased by the azul. I realized it has been over a week since I've been to buy minnows. Yeterday the azul took one piece of dry krill and then spit it back out, and showed no interest during feeding. Does anyone have any advice on what I should do? To me it looks as though I need to buy minnows to ensure the azul doesn't eat my xingu, but will I lose progress on pellet training my little guys if I break down? And if I'm not having any luck with a starving azul, how will he ever eat non-live if I feed it to him again? Tried a worm yesterday and no dice, going to try shrimp or smelt tonight after work but if it wont do any good I really am at a loss of what to do. Really hope I don't lose the xingu.
 
hello im thinkin about buying a three inch pbass. what tankmates should i put it with?:D i have a 80 gallon with 1rct,1tsn,1rctXtsn,1 red tailed pacu, and 1 freeshwater barracuda. they are all about 4 inches. i would like to buy more fish, chiclids perhaps?
 
Thanks for your input.

Order of events today:

1) azul ate a single dry krill
2) azul ate a single Hikari food stick
3) would not eat anything else, tried the tail of a smelt or silverside, struggled with it but eventually ate it.
3) tried shrimp, nothing
4) tried another smelt tail, nothing

Thoughts on next move? Starve for a day, feed tomorrow? Try only floating tomorrow? Try shrimp first tomorrow? Try smelt again tomorrow?

By the way, the method I choose to use for this is to always shake their food bag, thankfully a bag of rosy red minnows and a ziploc of crushed krill and shrimp look similar, get them excited for their food aka swim against the front of the tank, hold my hand over the tank for a bit, then whip it in with some force so the bass hit it right at the top. The two little guys do it furiously, worked flawlessly with dry shrimp and krill, but the azul is still shy and doesn't participate as much in the ritual, and I noticed my xingu got a bit roughed up last night so I know he's hungry. Hope the xingu has the gas this last 1-2 weeks it will hopefully take me to get the azul to fully accept frozen and keep him fat. After which I will stuff frozen with pellets and all will be well with the world.

All things considered knowing he finally ate a smelt tail, think the next few moves are crucial, so thoughts?


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I took your advice, since then he's eaten 1 pellet one feeding, one dry shrimp the second feeding, and 2 dry krill the third. Whereas the broko and xingu eat at least a dozen and are half his size. Think this means he knows its food and just doesn't like it and is only eating enough to satisfy him to continue to be picky lol? Gonna go pellets today and see what he does, his colors are starting to go ugly and he's looking thin and chasing the xingu a lot, can't believe he's giving me so much hassle.


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