Pike with Bichir?

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I have 2 10" Crenicichla cincta females in with a 7" Polypterus delhezi and a 6" Polypterus ornatippinis. The pikes' mouths are big enough to fit the bichirs heads in, but they haven't tried to eat them. When the ornate bichir gets in front of one of the pikes, she'll grab its body in her mouth and push it wherever she wants it to go. I imagine she would try to eat it if it was just a little smaller. However the bichir never has any injuries from these encounters and still swims wherever he wants like he just doesn't care. Bottom line, if neither the bichir nor pike can swallow the other, they'll probably do alright together in neutral pH and moderate hardness water.
 
well looks like Crenicichla menezesi is what i really want, but it says they are kinda rare. any idea where i can get one from?
 
Oddball;834009; said:
Most Crenicichla come from very soft acid and mineral-free waters. Polypterus species come from very hard alkaline mineral-rich waters. Some poly species can do OK in pH neutral conditions. But, IMO, that pH is still outside the comfort zone of most Crenicichla species.

oddball is right! you can do the same with keeping africans and south americans ! but doesnt mean they can be real comfortable for them!
 
X24;835395; said:
well looks like Crenicichla menezesi is what i really want, but it says they are kinda rare. any idea where i can get one from?

with pikes I've found that you basically have to keep asking til they come in. I believe Rapps (tangled up in cichllids)had some a few months ago and also saw them on Oliver's (Below Water) list before. some places dont update their list so you might see em on there but they dont have them but will say they can get em.:confused: :popcorn:

so just ask and wait...:cheers:
 
X24;835228; said:
the 4" one i think might be too small, so the menezesi seems like the way to go. my water has a PH of 7.6, but is somewhat soft, so idk if a pike would enjoy it or not.

I think you seem to keep forgetting that I used to live in Nebraska. My pH was almost 8.0...and I kept SEVERALY species of pikes. They are very adaptable, and can be kept in pretty much all water conditions it seems like for the most part. Some pikes are more sensative than others, especially when young, but for the most part they are practically bullet proof. Main thing with the lower pH and softer water is if you are trying to BREED the pikes. Since you aren't really trying to do that, you'll be just fine. The harder water actually helps out some as well to keep HITH away...;).

If you really want to get a pike that will look spectacular with your bichirs, get Crenicichla vittata ;). Jeff Rapps (www.tangledupincichlids.com) has some currently actually at a great deal!! Might as well give up on the LFS in Lincoln or Omaha ordering from him, as I tried to get them to for almost two years to no avail. So if you want them, you'll have to order them yourself. Not that hard, and really worth it. Rapps is a great guy with great fish.

Anywho, check out those LFS and lemme know how it goes...hahaha. You could always pick up those two Crenicichla sp. 'cobra' I saw at that one LFS in Lincoln. At $30 a pop, I highly recommend it! They would go great as well! ;)
 
Yeah, lucius would work. But dude, stop using that engine to look for pikes. Go to Google and type in ' MOSTLY CICHLIDS ' then click on the link. Once there go to Photos and have fun!! Vin Kutty is the pike guru of all times practically. Has TONS of pictures! ORRRR just go to GOOGLE and type in Crenicichla and then click the Images Tab at the top of the page. Then enjoy the photos!! :D
 
wow some VERY nice pikes.

between bichir and pikes i might begin to get MTS.

btw, what is the pike in your display picture?
 
You own it?

oh and after looking through all of these pikes, i decided that rather then order a specific species online, i'm gunna just wait till i see one at a LFS. You told me about those sp. Cobra's that were a good deal, so i'm guessing some place in lincoln has a few pikes.

thanks.
 
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