Hi lovers and keepers of Brachyplatystoma filamentosum, aka
-- Piraiba,
-- Kumakuma,
-- Pirá-aíba , Pirahiba, Piramutaba, Piranambu, Piratinga, Piriaba, Filhote, Bagre amarelo, Bagre branco, Bandeirinha, Cadete, Chumbadinha, Dourada, Dourado, Guirí, Jandiauva, or Urubarana (Brazil),
-- Piraiba, Pirá-aíva, Pirá-mbatá, Pirá-pará, Pirambihtambá, Piratinga, Dourado, Bagre blando (Argentina),
-- Torche, Pilau, Axakwan, or Letkaima (French Guiana),
-- Bagre blanco (Ecuador)
-- Blanco pobre (Venezuela)
The Sarge
Chicxulub
has resumed hard work on Brachyplatystoma ID thread, in his customary fine fashion as he had done for ATF, goonch, and others. We could only remain eternally indebted to him for giving MFK and MFKers such depth and substance, which is valued worldwide by our fellow fish heads.
The Drill-Fish-Nut-in-Chief Chicx has mounted an honorary calling upon the troops, the known ones and those who believe they can help too, to try and come up with a section on piraiba geographical ID nuances to be included in his write-up (with a proper acknowledgement)... whatever we can come up with and agree on at the current state of affairs, if anything.
It could be one sentence, like “we tried but failed to reach a consensus on anything”, one paragraph, or one page, etc.
In the interest of keeping our manicured glutes as dent- and scuff-free as possible, I propose we voluntarily step off this deep end and try it in earnest.
Special thanks to GiantFishKeeper101, who in a way has preemptively started a great thread on this topic https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/...hyplatystoma-filamentosum-disscussion.709516/ but I’d like to attempt to have this thread be more structured in the hope that this thread will become more efficient and less time-consuming for all involved. We are soliciting only knowledge- and fact-bearing input while trivial or distracting posts would not be welcome.
If all you have are visuals of piraibas with a reliable origin info and no comments, these are welcome too. Label them clearly please.
I propose four geographical subsections – Suriname (S), Peru (P), Guyana (G), and Brazil (B). Let’s stick to this order when discussing all variants.
I propose two phases for this thread.
First, let’s each of us post our current understanding of differences and similarities in FOUR TRAITS between the FOUR GEO-VARIANTS (or 3, or 2 – whatever you think you can contribute, I can only try S versus P):
-- skeletal (head, snout, back, etc.),
-- fins, barbels, extensions,
-- pattern,
-- coloration,
in THREE SIZES:
-- under a foot
-- foot to foot and a half
-- two feet and over
and support each point with a visual aid - photos are best, videos, and drawings – of the actual piraibas each of us personally has kept or is keeping. Plus if so inclined, pictures from other sources can be included.
I suggest not reading the posts from others, except OP, until you will have posted yours so you are not swayed or prejudiced by the allegations of others.
After everyone makes their main post, I propose only then we proceed to discussing our differences, if any become obvious.
I’d like GiantFishKeeper101 to start us off, having just seen his most excellent effort with the drawings and because he is so much into this particular topic anyway.
Chicx and all would really appreciate the input from (in no particular order)
GiantFishKeeper101
fugupuff
H HELIOX
vincentwugwg
fishtankphil
Rpul
Tripletail
amazonfishman
Troy1015
Jonathan_G
bobVillanueva
thebiggerthebetter
-- Piraiba,
-- Kumakuma,
-- Pirá-aíba , Pirahiba, Piramutaba, Piranambu, Piratinga, Piriaba, Filhote, Bagre amarelo, Bagre branco, Bandeirinha, Cadete, Chumbadinha, Dourada, Dourado, Guirí, Jandiauva, or Urubarana (Brazil),
-- Piraiba, Pirá-aíva, Pirá-mbatá, Pirá-pará, Pirambihtambá, Piratinga, Dourado, Bagre blando (Argentina),
-- Torche, Pilau, Axakwan, or Letkaima (French Guiana),
-- Bagre blanco (Ecuador)
-- Blanco pobre (Venezuela)
The Sarge
Chicxulub
has resumed hard work on Brachyplatystoma ID thread, in his customary fine fashion as he had done for ATF, goonch, and others. We could only remain eternally indebted to him for giving MFK and MFKers such depth and substance, which is valued worldwide by our fellow fish heads.The Drill-Fish-Nut-in-Chief Chicx has mounted an honorary calling upon the troops, the known ones and those who believe they can help too, to try and come up with a section on piraiba geographical ID nuances to be included in his write-up (with a proper acknowledgement)... whatever we can come up with and agree on at the current state of affairs, if anything.
It could be one sentence, like “we tried but failed to reach a consensus on anything”, one paragraph, or one page, etc.
In the interest of keeping our manicured glutes as dent- and scuff-free as possible, I propose we voluntarily step off this deep end and try it in earnest.
Special thanks to GiantFishKeeper101, who in a way has preemptively started a great thread on this topic https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/...hyplatystoma-filamentosum-disscussion.709516/ but I’d like to attempt to have this thread be more structured in the hope that this thread will become more efficient and less time-consuming for all involved. We are soliciting only knowledge- and fact-bearing input while trivial or distracting posts would not be welcome.
If all you have are visuals of piraibas with a reliable origin info and no comments, these are welcome too. Label them clearly please.
I propose four geographical subsections – Suriname (S), Peru (P), Guyana (G), and Brazil (B). Let’s stick to this order when discussing all variants.
I propose two phases for this thread.
First, let’s each of us post our current understanding of differences and similarities in FOUR TRAITS between the FOUR GEO-VARIANTS (or 3, or 2 – whatever you think you can contribute, I can only try S versus P):
-- skeletal (head, snout, back, etc.),
-- fins, barbels, extensions,
-- pattern,
-- coloration,
in THREE SIZES:
-- under a foot
-- foot to foot and a half
-- two feet and over
and support each point with a visual aid - photos are best, videos, and drawings – of the actual piraibas each of us personally has kept or is keeping. Plus if so inclined, pictures from other sources can be included.
I suggest not reading the posts from others, except OP, until you will have posted yours so you are not swayed or prejudiced by the allegations of others.
After everyone makes their main post, I propose only then we proceed to discussing our differences, if any become obvious.
I’d like GiantFishKeeper101 to start us off, having just seen his most excellent effort with the drawings and because he is so much into this particular topic anyway.
Chicx and all would really appreciate the input from (in no particular order)
GiantFishKeeper101
fugupuff
H HELIOX
vincentwugwg
fishtankphil
Rpul
Tripletail
amazonfishman
Troy1015
Jonathan_G
bobVillanueva
thebiggerthebetter
