Piraiba: Suriname, Peru, Guyana, and Brazil - are there reliable ID differences?

[thebiggerthebetter]

It's been almost two years. Anyone want to add anything?
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[dazzapolypterusweeksii]

suriname piraiba around the late 20" maybe 30" lost spots very early. Very dark and elongated pointed snout.




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peru piraiba....very stocky active. Very light colour with some very faint spots roughly 24" maybe bigger. Got birds eye view of the peru next to the dark suriname.

Although the surinames head/mouth is pointed from a side shot from above quite broad whereas the peru is very stocky large head from side angle but from above a uniform curve

 

[Sk2real]

Can I get some help on what kind of piraiba this is? Much appreciated!

 

[Keepers]

Do you have videos for your biggest?

 

[GiantFishKeeper101]

Can I get some help on what kind of piraiba this is? Much appreciated!

That's a peruvian. Or possibly a hybrid. Because back in the day there were no light colored piraiba or rarely available in the market, most of them are dark colored variants. Now, most of them are light colored variants. The thing is, after plenty of these light colored piraiba enters the market, False Piraiba (Brachyplatystoma capapretum) have completely gone from the market. Who knows what happened, plenty of speculation, each to their own opinion.

Do you have videos for your biggest?

Last measured 30". No i haven't, had sold him last year. Haven't heard from him since. Also I don't wanna know because if something ever happen, i would heart broke. You can look him in the catfish book titled "Pims" in the Suriname Piraiba section. All of em are photo of him. Terrible photos tho, only later i had the best photos of him but the book already published. Perhaps 2nd edition.

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

Between Suriname and Peru, I'd say this is Peru. IDK what the Guyana and Brazil look like exactly.

That's a peruvian. Or possibly a hybrid. Because back in the day there were no light colored piraiba or rarely available in the market, most of them are dark colored variants. Now, most of them are light colored variants. The thing is, after plenty of these light colored piraiba enters the market, False Piraiba (Brachyplatystoma capapretum) have completely gone from the market. Who knows what happened, plenty of speculation, each to their own opinion.

I so totally noticed this too and agree 100%.

The lighter colored one, which is the one that keeps spots longer, that we know as Peru piraiba seems to not exceed 3 feet or so in 5-10 years or maybe at all, as opposed to the Suriname piraiba that reaches 5-6 feet in this time span. Most peers in the US seem to consider (erroneously in my view) the recently-widely-sold Peru piraiba the false piraiba aka B. capapretum, which however looks distinctly different from Peru piraiba and Suriname piraiba when young.

It's been an enigma to me. I tentatively conclude that B. filamentosum consists of two species, not one.

 

[Keepers]

Do you know where is that guy from?

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

IDK what Brazil and Guyana look like but between Peru and Suriname this one looks Peru to me.