piranha's in CO
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Already very well answered but, not ok to have in Colorado. Most places will have them from time to time, just not for sale (wink). It's only really on paper though, the last place I worked at managed to get piranha's delivered to the door via online orders. If you want them, you'll have no problems acquiring them.
COLORADO: Found by pwmin:
aquatic species excerpt:
#012 POSSESSION OF AQUATIC WILDLIFE
A. Except as provided in these regulations or authorized by the Division of Wildlife or under Title
33 or Title 35 C.R.S., it shall be unlawful for any person to possess any live native or
nonnative aquatic wildlife in Colorado.
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B. No person shall, at any time, have in possession or under their control any wildlife caught,
taken or killed outside of this state which were caught, taken or killed at a time, in a manner,
for a purpose, or in any other respect which is prohibited by the laws of the state, territory or
country in which the same were caught, taken or killed; or which were shipped out of said
state, territory or country in violation of the laws thereof.
C. Except as provided herein, the possession of the following species, their hybrids or viable
gametes is prohibited:
1. Bowfins: Amiidae.
2. Carp of the following genera: Aristichthys (including but not limited to bighead carp,
Aristichthys nobilis); Catla (including but not limited to catla, Catla catla); Catlocarpio
(including but not limited to giant barb, Catlocarpio siamensis); Carrassius; Cirrhinus
(including but not limited to mrigal, Cirrhinus cirrhosis); Cyprinus; Hypophthalmichthys
(including but not limited to silver carp, Hypophthalmichthys molitrix, and largescale silver
carp, Hypophthalmichthys harmandi); Labeo (including but not limited to rohu, Labeo
rohita; Mylopharyngodon (including but not limited to black carp, Mylopharyngodon
piceus); and Tor (including but not limited to mahseers). However, grass carp,
Ctenopharyngodon idella, and common carp, including koi, Cyprinus carpio carpio, and
goldfish, Carrassius auratus, may be possessed as otherwise provided for in these
regulations.
3. Catfish, Walking: Clarias batrachus.
4. Crayfish, Rusty: Orconectes rusticus.
5. Eel, Asian Swamp: Monopterus albus.
6. Frog, Green: Rana clamitans .
7. Gars: Lepisosteidae - All species.
8. Gobies: Gobiidae.
9. Mussel, Quagga: Dreissena bugensis.
10. Mussel, Zebra: Dreissena polymorpha.
11. New Zealand mudsnail: Potamopyrgus antipodarum.
12. Perch, White: Morone americana.
13. Piranha: Including members of the genera Serrasalmus and Pygocentrus.
14. Rudd: Scardinius erythrophthalmus.
15. Ruffe, Eurasian: Gymnocephalus cernuus.
16. Snakeheads or murrels: Members of the genera Channa, Parachanna and Ophicephalus
17. Sticklebacks: Members of the genera Apeltes, Aulorhynchus, Gasterosteus and
Pungitius.
18. Tilapia: All species.
However, blue tilapia (Oreochromis aurea), Mozambique tilapia (Oreochromis
mossambica), Nile tilapia (Tilapia nilotica), and their hybrids may be imported and
possessed for fish culture and educational purposes, provided the fish and their progeny
are held in facilities screened or otherwise designed to prevent their escape and are not
otherwise released into waters of the state. Screen mesh size shall be no larger than 1/4"
diameter. For the purposes of this regulation, fish culture means the raising of fish for
sale as food or for export, by a licensed aquaculturist, and educational purposes means
the raising of fish by educational facilities or for public display in public aquaria, zoos, or
other similar facilities.
19. Trahira:Hoplias malabaricus.
20. Water Fleas, Fish Hook and Spiny: Cercopagis pengoi, Bythotrephes lomgimanus, and
Daphnia lumholtzii.
Possession of the above species may be authorized as provided by Chapter 13 of these
regulations (Possession of Wildlife, Scientific Collecting and Special Licenses) or Title 35,
Article 80, C.R.S. (Pet Animal Care and Facilities Act), or as pets in private aquaria.
However, release of any of the above species into waters of the state is prohibited.
I believe Paul has followed up on this through emails to authorities, though it was regarding gar.
aquatic species excerpt:
#012 POSSESSION OF AQUATIC WILDLIFE
A. Except as provided in these regulations or authorized by the Division of Wildlife or under Title
33 or Title 35 C.R.S., it shall be unlawful for any person to possess any live native or
nonnative aquatic wildlife in Colorado.
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B. No person shall, at any time, have in possession or under their control any wildlife caught,
taken or killed outside of this state which were caught, taken or killed at a time, in a manner,
for a purpose, or in any other respect which is prohibited by the laws of the state, territory or
country in which the same were caught, taken or killed; or which were shipped out of said
state, territory or country in violation of the laws thereof.
C. Except as provided herein, the possession of the following species, their hybrids or viable
gametes is prohibited:
1. Bowfins: Amiidae.
2. Carp of the following genera: Aristichthys (including but not limited to bighead carp,
Aristichthys nobilis); Catla (including but not limited to catla, Catla catla); Catlocarpio
(including but not limited to giant barb, Catlocarpio siamensis); Carrassius; Cirrhinus
(including but not limited to mrigal, Cirrhinus cirrhosis); Cyprinus; Hypophthalmichthys
(including but not limited to silver carp, Hypophthalmichthys molitrix, and largescale silver
carp, Hypophthalmichthys harmandi); Labeo (including but not limited to rohu, Labeo
rohita; Mylopharyngodon (including but not limited to black carp, Mylopharyngodon
piceus); and Tor (including but not limited to mahseers). However, grass carp,
Ctenopharyngodon idella, and common carp, including koi, Cyprinus carpio carpio, and
goldfish, Carrassius auratus, may be possessed as otherwise provided for in these
regulations.
3. Catfish, Walking: Clarias batrachus.
4. Crayfish, Rusty: Orconectes rusticus.
5. Eel, Asian Swamp: Monopterus albus.
6. Frog, Green: Rana clamitans .
7. Gars: Lepisosteidae - All species.
8. Gobies: Gobiidae.
9. Mussel, Quagga: Dreissena bugensis.
10. Mussel, Zebra: Dreissena polymorpha.
11. New Zealand mudsnail: Potamopyrgus antipodarum.
12. Perch, White: Morone americana.
13. Piranha: Including members of the genera Serrasalmus and Pygocentrus.
14. Rudd: Scardinius erythrophthalmus.
15. Ruffe, Eurasian: Gymnocephalus cernuus.
16. Snakeheads or murrels: Members of the genera Channa, Parachanna and Ophicephalus
17. Sticklebacks: Members of the genera Apeltes, Aulorhynchus, Gasterosteus and
Pungitius.
18. Tilapia: All species.
However, blue tilapia (Oreochromis aurea), Mozambique tilapia (Oreochromis
mossambica), Nile tilapia (Tilapia nilotica), and their hybrids may be imported and
possessed for fish culture and educational purposes, provided the fish and their progeny
are held in facilities screened or otherwise designed to prevent their escape and are not
otherwise released into waters of the state. Screen mesh size shall be no larger than 1/4"
diameter. For the purposes of this regulation, fish culture means the raising of fish for
sale as food or for export, by a licensed aquaculturist, and educational purposes means
the raising of fish by educational facilities or for public display in public aquaria, zoos, or
other similar facilities.
19. Trahira:Hoplias malabaricus.
20. Water Fleas, Fish Hook and Spiny: Cercopagis pengoi, Bythotrephes lomgimanus, and
Daphnia lumholtzii.
Possession of the above species may be authorized as provided by Chapter 13 of these
regulations (Possession of Wildlife, Scientific Collecting and Special Licenses) or Title 35,
Article 80, C.R.S. (Pet Animal Care and Facilities Act), or as pets in private aquaria.
However, release of any of the above species into waters of the state is prohibited.
I believe Paul has followed up on this through emails to authorities, though it was regarding gar.
if i read the red right as long as they are in a private aquarium and even seem ok to buy. this is very encouraging and i am now going to take a p or bust thought process. and when it comes time to buy piranha's i will check Fish Palace and Aqua Imports.
of note is: 6. frog, green i got a giggle out of that.
of note is: 6. frog, green i got a giggle out of that.
Bderick67;4205517; said:COLORADO: Found by pwmin:
Possession of the above species may be authorized as provided by Chapter 13 of these
regulations (“Possession of Wildlife, Scientific Collecting and Special Licenses”or Title 35,
Article 80, C.R.S. (“Pet Animal Care and Facilities Act”
However, release of any of the above species into waters of the state is prohibited.
I believe Paul has followed up on this through emails to authorities, though it was regarding gar.
"Or as pets in aquaria" does not pertain to Ps in aquaria. According to Chapter 13, private aquaria refers to student aquariums where wild specimens collected under Ch. 13 collection regulations may be retained for bonafide research programs in approved licensed private aquariums per Title 35 Article 80.
Ch 13 is a collecting licensing regulation
Title 35, Article 80 is the regulations pertaining to licensed animal/pet care facilities.
Neither of these regulations has anything to do with keeping Ps in home aquariums.
Therefore, under C. Except as provided herein, the possession of the following species, their hybrids or viable
gametes is prohibited:, the beginning portion "Except as provided herein" does not include Ps. For Ps, the pertinent regulation reads:
C. the possession of the following species, their hybrids or viable gametes is prohibited: 13. Piranha: Including members of the genera Serrasalmus and Pygocentrus.
Just as it would for federally-banned species such as walking cats and snakeheads. And, for species such as swamp eels and gars.
Oddball;4206913; said:
Have you followed up on this regarding "or as pets in private aquaria" or is this your interpretation? To me the use of the word "or" separates the authorized possession into three categories, where as you seem to try to put it into just two.
I have not followed up on this, I know Paul (pwmin) has. I could not find the thread I was looking for on this though. I have PM'd Paul seeing if he can shed any light on this.
Title 35, Article 80 has a 'private aquarium' stipulation unde rthe conditions of a student being permitted to maintain study specimens, at home, when under the direction and licensing of a professor employed by a properly licensed research institution.
according to the chief of law enforcement and the person in charge of issuing permits for the Division of Wildlife, the "private aquaria" stipulation applies to all fish listed under the restricted species list in the state of Colorado for all persons...not applicable to federally banned species, however, of course
It also says that tropical and subtropical fish are exempted from the list
(1103)(B):
EXEMPTIONS FROM LICENSE REQUIREMENTS:
B. Unregulated Wildlife - Prior to adoption of this regulation (#1103(B)), possession of the listed species was expressly prohibited by Section 33-6-109(4), C.R.S. The decision of the Wildlife Commission to authorize this possession as herein provided is based on the scientific evidence available to it at the time of adoption of the regulation. The Wildlife Commission retains the statutory authority and duty to amend these regulations and to impose requirements, restrictions, and/or prohibition on possession of any of the listed species if and when further evidence comes to the Wildlife Commission's attention which makes such amendments appropriate.
Except for the provisions of section #007 regarding importation, #008 regarding the prohibited species list, #009 regarding release of live wildlife, and section #1114 regarding the addition of species to the unregulated wildlife list, the wildlife enumerated in this list are otherwise exempted from the requirements of Wildlife Commission regulations.
Unregulated wildlife may be imported, sold, bartered, traded, transferred, possessed, propagated and transported in Colorado provided that all importation, disease requirements and any other state, local or federal requirements are met. Statutory restrictions still apply.
All marine animals (vertebrates and invertebrates) except for anadromous and catadromous species.
Fishes:
All tropical and subtropical fishes
Common goldfish (Carassius auratus)
Koi
here is the thread Brian was looking for (excuse me being an ass in some posts): http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144758
currently, the position of Kathy Konishi (who used to be in charge of permits) is being filled. If what I'm saying isn't good enough for you, I'd encourage you to call the DOW and get a hold of the chief of law enforcement. Phil Goebel, the other person that used to know these things has retired and his position will not be filled most likely, definitely not anytime soon.
It also says that tropical and subtropical fish are exempted from the list
(1103)(B):
EXEMPTIONS FROM LICENSE REQUIREMENTS:
B. Unregulated Wildlife - Prior to adoption of this regulation (#1103(B)), possession of the listed species was expressly prohibited by Section 33-6-109(4), C.R.S. The decision of the Wildlife Commission to authorize this possession as herein provided is based on the scientific evidence available to it at the time of adoption of the regulation. The Wildlife Commission retains the statutory authority and duty to amend these regulations and to impose requirements, restrictions, and/or prohibition on possession of any of the listed species if and when further evidence comes to the Wildlife Commission's attention which makes such amendments appropriate.
Except for the provisions of section #007 regarding importation, #008 regarding the prohibited species list, #009 regarding release of live wildlife, and section #1114 regarding the addition of species to the unregulated wildlife list, the wildlife enumerated in this list are otherwise exempted from the requirements of Wildlife Commission regulations.
Unregulated wildlife may be imported, sold, bartered, traded, transferred, possessed, propagated and transported in Colorado provided that all importation, disease requirements and any other state, local or federal requirements are met. Statutory restrictions still apply.
All marine animals (vertebrates and invertebrates) except for anadromous and catadromous species.
Fishes:
All tropical and subtropical fishes
Common goldfish (Carassius auratus)
Koi
here is the thread Brian was looking for (excuse me being an ass in some posts): http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144758
currently, the position of Kathy Konishi (who used to be in charge of permits) is being filled. If what I'm saying isn't good enough for you, I'd encourage you to call the DOW and get a hold of the chief of law enforcement. Phil Goebel, the other person that used to know these things has retired and his position will not be filled most likely, definitely not anytime soon.
