Pitbulls attack mother, kills child(4 years old)

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we can all go back and forth on this, can say a dog, is a dog is a dog, and behaves way he was raised. tell that to my yapping weenie dogs I have now, some things can not be trained out, I do not fault the dog, its in there nature. To keep a dog with the given nature is not a good ideal, IMHO.
 
no argument. but this has nothing to do with the statistics of the animal/breed it self in society. I am sure they where well kept and not allowed to roam free the streets or behind a cheap fence.

Hello; I agree with this. The folks that keep these dogs in a proper manner do not have any issues with them outside their own homes. Same as the dangerous animals that are kept in zoos. These animals are not the issue.

The ones that somehow interact with people and are not kept secure are the problems. Some cases of the dogs owners being the mauling victims. That a number of people keep them very secure makes the statistic of pitt bull types being responsible for over 50% of fatal maulings even more damming. Again they are about 6% or the total dog population. That means that the other 94% of all dogs are responsible for a bit over 40% of the remaining fatal attacks.

The numbers also indicate that pitt bulls and rottweilers together do over 70% of the fatal maulings.
 
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It is incidents like this that open the doors for politrikians to dictate to us what we can and can't have.
 
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SK the numbers are there, the statistics are there. the racial and economical statistics are not, I think if that is plugged in might find a def number, I am not suggesting the animal less aggressive, or apt to go off. just find the number of pits to other dog type owner ship different.
 
SK the numbers are there, the statistics are there. the racial and economical statistics are not, I think if that is plugged in might find a def number, I am not suggesting the animal less aggressive, or apt to go off. just find the number of pits to other dog type owner ship different.

I follow you on this.
 
we can all go back and forth on this, can say a dog, is a dog is a dog, and behaves way he was raised. tell that to my yapping weenie dogs I have now, some things can not be trained out, I do not fault the dog, its in there nature. To keep a dog with the given nature is not a good ideal, IMHO.
all this talk about the dogs "nature" but everyone just chooses to ignore the site that says these dogs were initially bred to be specifically human friendly.

as for the 6% value. i really want to know how that number was formulated. i also would like to know what percentages other dog breeds have out of 100%. more specifically other "bully" breeds. there is a lot of grey areas i see with that value. thats why i said earlier that any population type data should really be taken with a grain of salt.
 
taken from your link lol

"At the same time, bite inhibition towards humans was encouraged through selective breeding so gamblers could handle their dogs during staged fights. Partially because of these early breeding efforts which frowned on "man biters," pit bulls gained a reputation for their trustworthy nature with humans."

edit:however your link does answer my question about them being bred for fighting. as does the one by sumo.

So....does respectful toward humans mean THEIR handler or any random stranger?

I'll ask this question- who has experience working with these dogs besides me and pops pops ? I'm talking actual ownership and experience. Not my neighbors had one on a chain in the front yard when I was little 40 years ago. I'm talking ownership, training, or daily working around them.

Me but does it matter?
 
I blame the people who created the breed , I personally like pitbulls. Dislike hearing horrible cases like this though.
 
some things can not be trained out, I do not fault the dog, its in there nature.
This is just not true. Have you ever properly trained a dog? Or spoken to trainers? Ever witnessed a trained dog with it's trainer? It is amazing what you can get a dog to do,and more importantly to this thread, not to do. I'm sorry but you have posted a lot of what is just nonsense here.
 
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as for the 6% value. i really want to know how that number was formulated.

thats why i said earlier that any population type data should really be taken with a grain of salt.

Hello; Go back to the links I posted. There was also a study done by the CDC (centers for disease control) on the subject. For the sake of claiification, even if the pitt bulls are a slightly larger portion of the total dog population. How would that make much difference about the fact they do more that 50% (I think it is around 56%) of the fatal maulings?

these dogs were initially bred to be specifically human friendly.
Hello; What was intended by this "specific breeding" does not appear to be relevant in the real world. Something is going wrong.
 
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