I don't have issues 'stereotyping' a certain group of people if they mostly behave a certain way...I still accept that it doesn't mean all of that group behave that way.
Pitbulls attack mother, kills child(4 years old)
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I'm not against this thread ending. Dog lovers will keep making excuses for these dogs...and non dog lovers will keep hating on them.
hello; If I am considered one of the "non dog lovers", let me be clear. I do not hate dogs. I do argue against some of the irrational ploys used as excuses for bad dog behavior. Most dogs I have known, owned or know of have been fine animals. It is not an either love dogs unconditionaly or hate all dogs situation for me.
Some will champion a specific dog, or in this case a type, no matter what the dog(s) have done. Most dogs are good dogs. It is fortunate that the biters and maulers are relatively few.
Those few that bite or maul should be put down. It is proper that the police went ahead and killed the dogs that are the topic of this thread. Good riddance and no debate over putting them down. I also hope the owner gets a lot of legal punishment.
Hello; I think that one point could be that selective breeding can be used to go either way. Very tame pitts developed or very aggressive. It depends on what you select for and what you cull. I refer back to the silver fox experiment link for reference.
Near as i can tell there has been a deliberate effort the last few decades by some breeders to produce agressive pitts. Other breeders may be running puppy mills and just not taking care with the temperment of their breeders. Either way we seem to have a population of aggressive pitt bull types that attack and kill more often than any other type of dog.
I think pitbulls just attract douche bag owners and that compounds the problem
Just throwing in my 2cents here...
Im guessing the reason for the statistics is coz there are too many people who own these dogs that own them for the wrong reason...
And by wrong reasons i dont mean illegal activities, but rather coz they think its cool or tough to own such breeds, but as others have said lack the time / paitence needed to properly train these dogs to be good pets...
Having met people like this in the past, i can say it seems to be quite a few of them...
Im guessing the reason for the statistics is coz there are too many people who own these dogs that own them for the wrong reason...
And by wrong reasons i dont mean illegal activities, but rather coz they think its cool or tough to own such breeds, but as others have said lack the time / paitence needed to properly train these dogs to be good pets...
Having met people like this in the past, i can say it seems to be quite a few of them...
That's the truth. I'm not sure where I fall. I like certain dogs and Pitts (not all dogs though) but I see too many irresponsible owners and wish there was less ownership of them. I'm sure they would just swap to Rottweilers and Doberman though
I'm with you Ballin, not really sure where i Fit in this argument since i love dogs as well?
On a personal level though, i think the only way to really control these problems, without full on banning any species of dog would be to have an gov't agency setup where people who want to own certain more aggressive species of dogs need to prove they are training their dogs properly, and socializing them to try and avoid these problems, with possible yearly or bi-yearly checkups + licensing .
Also, having these types of dogs locked up safely in ones property is another important issue, since some of them do have immense agility and are able to scale 6' + fences and walls quite easily
On a personal level though, i think the only way to really control these problems, without full on banning any species of dog would be to have an gov't agency setup where people who want to own certain more aggressive species of dogs need to prove they are training their dogs properly, and socializing them to try and avoid these problems, with possible yearly or bi-yearly checkups + licensing .
Also, having these types of dogs locked up safely in ones property is another important issue, since some of them do have immense agility and are able to scale 6' + fences and walls quite easily
