Plant only filtration (why not popular in the hobby???)

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I tried the Pythos, but the plants keeping getting pests (a sticky cotton looking mess). I assume this is mites or aphids?? Anyone know a good way to resolve this? I'm leery to spray the plants as surely some of the spray would end up in the tank.
 

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I tried the Pythos, but the plants keeping getting pests (a sticky cotton looking mess). I assume this is mites or aphids?? Anyone know a good way to resolve this? I'm leery to spray the plants as surely some of the spray would end up in the tank.
Maybe take them out for a while and spray, then wash and replace
 

NW Cichlid Keith

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This article has some good information and is written much better than anything I can put together. http://www.farmxchange.org/diy-aquaponics-super-organic-pesticide-methods/
Interesting read - thanks. It sounds like I might be best to pull the plants for a few days and dose the heck out of them, then put them back in. I think trying to spray, as I have been, w/out getting anything in the water helps but doesn't fully eliminate the problem. I did try pulling them out and submersing them for several hours in a bucket of water - in case anyone wonders, that will not kill the bugs :-(
 

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Iv used neem oil/rubbing alcohol in warm water with a tid bit of dish soap and never had any negative effects.

It is good practice to completely submerse the new plants in water for 24hours.
 

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First couple of warm days here in NY and I went to a stream in the woods to get plants (submerged) for my 55. It's been 1.5 weeks, no pests, ( I washed them in a 5 gal bucket with a drop of bleached, then rinsed well and soaked in a bucket with Prime. I am seeing growth especially from my elodia - it doubled in size. 55 gal, 32w t12 6500k, jungle val, Xmas tree moss, some wild grasslike plant, some native that looks like an anubias, some native moss, and of course the elodia, which has already doubled in size. I do weekly water changes of 10 - 30% 0ppm all around. Tank has been up with fish 2 months ph 7.2. No co2. playsand with lava rock substrate, the only filtration is a reverse undergravel filter powered by an empty 350gph canister.The plants I bought before I even put fish in 3+ months ago have done less growing than the wild ones I got less than two weeks ago and cost a lot more. I have a lot of fish. 2 panchax killies 4 angels 5 SAEs 13 Praecox rainbows (all juvies) 10 guppies 3 ghost shrimp, and some MTS to aerate my sand in the spots the filter isn't great. Anyway, once my plants grow big enough and I feel more comfortable with the setup, it'll be no more water changes, just testing to make sure everyones fine.
 
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My Piranha Tank has a nice combo of Monstera Delicosa and Golden Pothos which has in recent months kept the tank free of excess nutrients, no algae, no cyano, the glass is squeaky clean. (And someone's probably gonna complain "that tank's too small!" but he's nearly 15 years old now and has a great outgoing temperament and fantastic colors, definitely no a fish that is suffering.)

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Now I have two Pothos plants there, and the one is kinda interesting as it's thriving in direct unfiltered sunlight.
It actually started out looking very pale and sickly from the exposure, but after about a year something happened. The plant changed and adapted... it became "bigger", I mean really massive. The leaves are huge and the trunk is nearly the size of my thumb at its thickest point!
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So yeah, pretty cool and I'm pretty pleased with the outcome. :)
I still use a filter but probably mainly for keeping the water clear of particulate matter.
 

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So for almost several months growing photos plant hydroponicaly with deep water culture system n grow each pot from a new non roots phase,
I have a conclusion,
I put my photos in my customize sump filter in the back top of my aquarium
I have 2 aquariums , one is close to window and the other one only depends on 1 led 4 watt
the one that close to window and got 7-8 am sunshine is become jungle now
the other one that depends on led 4 watt is growing but very unsignigficant, little leafs and grow so little
so what is the best lighting for photos anyway ?
Some said this plant dont need lighting so much like other plants
BUT a good lighting MADE A BIG DIFFERENCES in terms of 'GROWING'

Should I buy a UVB LAMP FOR REPTILE ? to replicate sunshine ?
or buy a another type of LED ? TF5/8 ? CFL ? Im confused please suggestions....
 
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Not UVB. LED growlights in blue and red spectrums boost growth well
 
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Not UVB. LED growlights in blue and red spectrums boost growth well
One of my fathers 'gardening friends' is from Southern California and can't stand the way the frost in NY doesn't let him plant in the winter, so he moved part of his garden into the house (lettuce, beans, herbs, parsley ) and keeps them under generic LED grow lights from Amazon. I wish I had pics. The growth and healthy plants he gets are unbelievable.
 
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