Please help. First ray into 360.

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Kolossus;2595793; said:
I agree with what most said here. I have done before what you have done and though your params tested fine (mine didn't), I would still hold off for a couple weeks...1.) because of the delicate situation your rays are in, and 2.) unless you have a single system running through a bunch of tanks, its just good practice to set up a tank, let it run, and supply dither fish for a spell prior to putting in your prize fish.

And don't even trip about it...We all have done it before. Just wait for a couple weeks while your dither fish chill in the big tank just to make sure everything is A-OK.

Perhaps Abner the dither fish is going to get his big self tossed into the new tank, lol. I was thinking that these rays have never, ever been in a tank that big. Maybe it was just squeaking a bit too fast on the glass? Something worth looking into, and thanks! :)

Yanbbrox;2595758; said:
Sounds like new tank problems. I always use waste tank water to cycle new tanks, I just fill the new one up as my water change routine allows until full and run the new one for at least a couple of weeks then add the new tank to my routine.

Hope it works out

You know, I didn't really consider "mysterious new tank problems" as a good reason to keep the rays in the smaller tank; perhaps there is something to that idea. Thanks for the info, and we'll be using more old tank water. :naughty:
 
Few things wrong with way you did this, First you used filtered tap water? Did you treat for chlorine or chloramines with product like prime or any dechlor? You should have used existing tank water from one of your cycled tanks already up and running. Third did you use any established bio-media in the filters after the tank was primed and running? Last just to rush rush need to make sure everything is done right way before adding fish we all know how exciting a new tank can be just want to get fish in there and get things started but really need to take step back and make sure things are done right way. Good luck
 
csx4236;2596136; said:
Few things wrong with way you did this, First you used filtered tap water? Did you treat for chlorine or chloramines with product like prime or any dechlor? You should have used existing tank water from one of your cycled tanks already up and running. Third did you use any established bio-media in the filters after the tank was primed and running? Last just to rush rush need to make sure everything is done right way before adding fish we all know how exciting a new tank can be just want to get fish in there and get things started but really need to take step back and make sure things are done right way. Good luck

I did treat the water for any trace amounts of chlorine, but I use a carbon block filter and my local water company has never used chloramines. Specifically I used prime. I also have added existing tank water, but as you can imagine I had a bit of trouble finding 360 gallons of tank water lying about. I have also added some established bio-media, yes.

The 150 gallon tub is too small for the four rays. It wasn't our excitement, but rather our concern, that was driving us not to tarry. As always, good advice and thanks for the help!
 
abortedsoul;2595991; said:
I appreciate your help, but do you know why the ray's disc might have been red?


What is your definition of red? All young rays have a pink under belly and they tend to look a little more pink when on a bare bottom tank. This pic is what what I call red. It was ammonia burns on a sick ray I got in.

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"I have cycled a tank with a ray in it in a little over a day, with ammonia never spiking, and nitrite hardly at all."

Can you explain this process?
 
reverse;2596366; said:
"I have cycled a tank with a ray in it in a little over a day, with ammonia never spiking, and nitrite hardly at all."

Can you explain this process?

Already did. Thread posted here.
 
abortedsoul;2596176; said:
The 150 gallon tub is too small for the four rays. It wasn't our excitement, but rather our concern, that was driving us not to tarry. As always, good advice and thanks for the help!

I am not judging you, just trying to help ease your stress. A 150 gallon is plenty large for 4 small motoro's for a SHORT amount of time. Granted heavy water changes are necessary but that is already needed to help them heal anyway and because the tank is not fully cycled but has rays in it. I have, on many occasions, kept 4 motoro's in 40 gallon tanks. The tanks were established first (your tub is not yet) and heavy water changes (10 gallons a day) were performed. Also filtration is 2 x hydro sponges. I am just letting you know that your 150 tub is fine and there is no reason to rush the transfer and stress the rays, you have months.
 
tank125;2596516; said:
I am not judging you, just trying to help ease your stress. A 150 gallon is plenty large for 4 small motoro's for a SHORT amount of time. Granted heavy water changes are necessary but that is already needed to help them heal anyway and because the tank is not fully cycled but has rays in it. I have, on many occasions, kept 4 motoro's in 40 gallon tanks. The tanks were established first (your tub is not yet) and heavy water changes (10 gallons a day) were performed. Also filtration is 2 x hydro sponges. I am just letting you know that your 150 tub is fine and there is no reason to rush the transfer and stress the rays, you have months.

Well, that's good to know. 40 gallons?! haha, I'm impressed.

I will have to look into what a hydro sponge filter is; never heard of that before.

Alright, we'll se what we can do to ease the process. :)
 
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