Pleco ID - Newly Acquired in Peru
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there are very few plecos that come from that river. My hunch is that it is a migrant by natural or human means. I do think it is one of the before mentioned ones, but I am now leaning towards the L282 as they do not have a listed homerange. They haven't been properly researched, so the home range has not yet been discovered, but the thought inhabitation is not terribly far away from there.
We aren't questioning looks on this one.... the pleco was pulled from a river that L097 have not been documented as inhabiting. L097 inhabit the river Rio Tapajos near Santarem which is in brazil. The plec in question is from the Napo River, which is in Peru.
yup and if you know one exporter you know them all, just because they were shipped in as being claimed from peru doesnt mean they are from peru..
i have had fish shipped in from SA and CA alot over the years, and they are never 100% on, many times i have got fish ID as something and are of something else includeing location.. you give a list of a bunch of pics of certain species to locals they are going to net the closest thing to it, and if there are other fish in the same trap they will all be shipped in as the same..
there is no garrenty on half the fish being exported.
its all about marketing IMO , thats why you see alot of sellers here in the states selling a species listed as one thing but i know dang well its not. if the name is worth money there going to exploit it plain and simple.
either way its a great looking pleco no matter where its from..
i have had fish shipped in from SA and CA alot over the years, and they are never 100% on, many times i have got fish ID as something and are of something else includeing location.. you give a list of a bunch of pics of certain species to locals they are going to net the closest thing to it, and if there are other fish in the same trap they will all be shipped in as the same..
there is no garrenty on half the fish being exported.
its all about marketing IMO , thats why you see alot of sellers here in the states selling a species listed as one thing but i know dang well its not. if the name is worth money there going to exploit it plain and simple.
either way its a great looking pleco no matter where its from..
They didn't even claim what kind of pleco it is. I agree that some exporters aren't very good, and a lot of fish shops are really bad about mislabeling. You'd have to ask waldo how much he trusts his fishermen. It is also very hard based on the information given, because it very well could also be any of the many variations on L. Galaxias, if you discredit the fisherman. We all agreed that it could be either L097 or L282, but it is the location that is throwing people. Without seeing the pleco it is difficult to say yes or no. Also have you looked at the L282, they resemble the pleco in question just as much as the L097, as they are both unidentified Psuedacanthicus sp.
Ya i know what you mean, almost like compareing a L114 to a LDA07, not one in the same IMO as i have both.
some of the importers do take the time to fish themselves but it is far in between.
you said the key word, "trust" and that is hard to do in this hobby
i Dont see half the species getting ID any time soon, tho i wish it were different
joe
some of the importers do take the time to fish themselves but it is far in between.
you said the key word, "trust" and that is hard to do in this hobby
i Dont see half the species getting ID any time soon, tho i wish it were different
joe
Joefish said:
I *AM* The Exporter.. Well not me, but my partner in Peru, Miguel, who I talk to just about everyday on AIM. He has no reason to lie to me, and he was asking me to get a proper identification so that we don't look like 'just another exporter' schmuck who is mis-labeling fish for market value.
I take alot of time to make sure our scientific names and identifications are as accurate as possible. You're right, alot of the time the fisherman only know common peruvian names and can only catch fish by a picture. Alot of the practices you mentioned are true, however the difference between us and them is we take the time at the actual Export facility to seperate and ID all the fish. Our Exporter is located in Lima, while most are in the heart of the jungle in Iquitos where most of the 'mislabeling' happens. Once the fish are shipped from Iquitos to our place in Lima, we take pictures and ID all of the fish, and update them accordingly on our price list with scientific names..
Maybe not every other Importer/Exporter has a trust like ours, because most are not one in the same company. I have no reason to look like an idiot and mis-identify fish for market value, because in most cases if you properly ID -NEW- species and you know what your doing, it's more beneficial in the long run..
So before you go blowing wind about how the fisherman and exporters are all un-educated and are just in it for a quick buck, maybe you should go down to the rivers and show Miguel and the collectors how it's done. I am sure they would appreciate your snide comments while they are waiste-deep in water making a living and risking their lives so you can have Geo's in your avatar.
Easy there, take a deep breath 
, i should rephrase my comment to "Most" as i do know good exporters, so i didnt mean any harm by it, and nothing was directed to you or your company.
Maybe it came off bad because i have been burnt quite a few times, so for that i do apoligize.
, i should rephrase my comment to "Most" as i do know good exporters, so i didnt mean any harm by it, and nothing was directed to you or your company. Maybe it came off bad because i have been burnt quite a few times, so for that i do apoligize.
