pls ID, Is it Atabapo???
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Really?
At varying ages and sizes they do exhibit the sub-orbital markings. As they mature and color up this will disapear just as the facial spots do.
I'm saying that atabapo 2 will keep those markings for life and I disagree that all the fishes he posted are atabapo 1s. Colour itself already shows a big difference
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You said that Cr. sp. lugubris "Atabapo I" never shows suborbital markings. I posted pics showing that they absolutely do. I'm at a loss what you are still arguing about.
those showing the marks are not "atabapo I". colour is different, markings are different, tone is different. just compare those you posted with mine. one of them in your photos look exactly like this, red with no marks.
The first pic I posted shows several fish, all of the same specie, in varying stages of color and maturtity. Yes, these are all the same type of fish...
You'll notice the largest, reddest fish shows less of a suborbital stripe than the smaller, less colorful fish. They change color and pattern depending on age, mood and diet. Young "Atabapo I" do indeed exhibit a suborbital stripe. They change as they mature just as many other pike species do.
Here's a young lenticulata
Here's the same fish as an adult
Yours is a mature, fully colored male Cr. sp. lugubris "Atabapo I". A gorgeous one at that. That said, if your fish were to stress it would lose its bright red color, exhibit a horizontal mid-line stripe and likely show a suborbital mark.
The first pic I posted shows several fish, all of the same specie, in varying stages of color and maturtity. Yes, these are all the same type of fish...
You'll notice the largest, reddest fish shows less of a suborbital stripe than the smaller, less colorful fish. They change color and pattern depending on age, mood and diet. Young "Atabapo I" do indeed exhibit a suborbital stripe. They change as they mature just as many other pike species do.
Here's a young lenticulata
Here's the same fish as an adult
Yours is a mature, fully colored male Cr. sp. lugubris "Atabapo I". A gorgeous one at that. That said, if your fish were to stress it would lose its bright red color, exhibit a horizontal mid-line stripe and likely show a suborbital mark.
Nope, when my fish is stressed, he shows a pink belly. Have never seen a horizontal mid-line on him or sub orbital marks ever. Had him since he's 9 inches, now he's 12. your atabapo I (the largest) has a clean face. She also clearly shows a white line on her dorsal fin. Female atabapo IIs shows black blotches or spots.
This is the blackest he will get, never a mid line, just black blotches with a pink belly. Pic taken when there is a very sudden change of lighting condition.
No argument with anything you've said here.
I wouldn't consider a sudden change of lighting condition as terribly stressful. Tearing the tank apart and catching him and moving him to a different tank, these are stressful and would alter his coloration much more.
So you got him when he was 9"? That's relatively mature. He likely would have outgrown a majority of his juvenile markings and coloration by that point in time. That said, you can still see a hint of his horizontal mid-line even at his best.
All aside, there is still no way that terrors r us' fish is Cr. sp. "Atabapo II". Of that I am 100% positive.
