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I guess I just don't understand the reason when I say big fish with little fish not always the safest way to go you say prove it. Yet when someone else says it you say aww man you couldnt be more right. Post 214.
It seems clear to me and I've read what I typed over and over trying to figure out where you got that I said or may have said a 10"lj was going to eat a 10" uj. Or that anyone was going to eat anyone for that matter. I was saying if a 6" sen was going to get eaten it would be more likely be by the 10" lj it's just a higher possibility based on size only. I have not had experience in feeding ujs to ljs or the other way around but I've seen larger fish eat smaller ones.I don't see how you could possibly say a 10" lj isn't physically larger then a 10" sen. Girth and mouth size has more to do with it then body length.
I wouldnt toss a 2" del in with my 3 dels. I would expect to end up loosing the 2" one. Do I know that for a fact? No. But it's a pretty good bet. Those are all ujs does that make what I'm saying better to you? Would I try it with my sens maybe, smaller fish smaller mouth (usually not always) less posibility of predation. I havent ever said anything about agression everything I've said was based off predation. As for agression my albino is probably the most foward and agressive of my fish deffinatly not the largest fish in the tank. Size has no bearing on agression, I never said it did. What I'm talking about is predation only.
You don't need to be physically agressive to be a predator or to act in your nature to eat smaller fish then yourself. You seem to think it is, or what I'm saying is, agression based it's not.
I also do kinda take offense to the fact that you base all my fish knowledge off my current situation. Yes most of my fish are roughly the same size, that's by design. I don't want a poly tragity to happen. I've been keeping fish since I was a kid. We are talking at least 35 years. I've bred African cichlids, clown fish, corals, firefish, tetras, saltwater crabs and shrimp both cleaner and blood. When i say bred i dont mean 1 time and the babies died or i just traded them away i took them to swaps and sold them to local fish stores, for years. I have a vast experience across alot of areas in the hobby. So with that knowledge you don't think I may possibly have seen a larger fish eat a smaller one? Ever. Maybe just once.
I once again am not on the side of uj vs lj. I personally like the look of ujs and that's it. I'm not trying to villanize ljs, you don't need to champion them. I'm not attacking them, I'm not trying to push my uj propaganda on anyone.
I have said and will continue to say it's not impossible to keep different size polys together or other types of fish but if you do so you risk the obvious possible outcome of the larger fish eating the smaller ones. Period. That's it. When I hear of someone putting smaller fish with larger fish I'm going to say " hey did you know......." hoping that they don't know x fish will be 20+" and 4" thick and fish y is going to maybe get to 10" and 2" thick and x is going to get to that size much sooner, if they know that and something bad happens it's on them. But if they were like me when I was a kid given bad advise maybe my .02 cents will be worth a life. Maybe it'll be like the poly utopia you've shown in so many photos, I hope so. But it doesn't always go that way. What did you say in a previous post 25 + 16 poly crimes in this thread alone, my 1 poly criminal thats 42 times I've had experience with in just polys. Not to mention anglers, toad fish, lionfish, oscars, red devils, green terrors, African cichlids, triggers. I can't think of anything else atm that I've had direct experience with in larger fish with smaller fish or just sometimes extremely predatory fish that may not be larger but can still eat an adult female clown fish......ahem (angler) or a 4" orange toad fish that ate a 6" blue throat trigger.
I hope this clears up any miscommunication I may have perpetrated, and my level of experience.
I guess I just don't understand the reason when I say big fish with little fish not always the safest way to go you say prove it. Yet when someone else says it you say aww man you couldnt be more right. Post 214.
It seems clear to me and I've read what I typed over and over trying to figure out where you got that I said or may have said a 10"lj was going to eat a 10" uj. Or that anyone was going to eat anyone for that matter. I was saying if a 6" sen was going to get eaten it would be more likely be by the 10" lj it's just a higher possibility based on size only. I have not had experience in feeding ujs to ljs or the other way around but I've seen larger fish eat smaller ones.I don't see how you could possibly say a 10" lj isn't physically larger then a 10" sen. Girth and mouth size has more to do with it then body length.
I wouldnt toss a 2" del in with my 3 dels. I would expect to end up loosing the 2" one. Do I know that for a fact? No. But it's a pretty good bet. Those are all ujs does that make what I'm saying better to you? Would I try it with my sens maybe, smaller fish smaller mouth (usually not always) less posibility of predation. I havent ever said anything about agression everything I've said was based off predation. As for agression my albino is probably the most foward and agressive of my fish deffinatly not the largest fish in the tank. Size has no bearing on agression, I never said it did. What I'm talking about is predation only.
You don't need to be physically agressive to be a predator or to act in your nature to eat smaller fish then yourself. You seem to think it is, or what I'm saying is, agression based it's not.
I also do kinda take offense to the fact that you base all my fish knowledge off my current situation. Yes most of my fish are roughly the same size, that's by design. I don't want a poly tragity to happen. I've been keeping fish since I was a kid. We are talking at least 35 years. I've bred African cichlids, clown fish, corals, firefish, tetras, saltwater crabs and shrimp both cleaner and blood. When i say bred i dont mean 1 time and the babies died or i just traded them away i took them to swaps and sold them to local fish stores, for years. I have a vast experience across alot of areas in the hobby. So with that knowledge you don't think I may possibly have seen a larger fish eat a smaller one? Ever. Maybe just once.
I once again am not on the side of uj vs lj. I personally like the look of ujs and that's it. I'm not trying to villanize ljs, you don't need to champion them. I'm not attacking them, I'm not trying to push my uj propaganda on anyone.
I have said and will continue to say it's not impossible to keep different size polys together or other types of fish but if you do so you risk the obvious possible outcome of the larger fish eating the smaller ones. Period. That's it. When I hear of someone putting smaller fish with larger fish I'm going to say " hey did you know......." hoping that they don't know x fish will be 20+" and 4" thick and fish y is going to maybe get to 10" and 2" thick and x is going to get to that size much sooner, if they know that and something bad happens it's on them. But if they were like me when I was a kid given bad advise maybe my .02 cents will be worth a life. Maybe it'll be like the poly utopia you've shown in so many photos, I hope so. But it doesn't always go that way. What did you say in a previous post 25 + 16 poly crimes in this thread alone, my 1 poly criminal thats 42 times I've had experience with in just polys. Not to mention anglers, toad fish, lionfish, oscars, red devils, green terrors, African cichlids, triggers. I can't think of anything else atm that I've had direct experience with in larger fish with smaller fish or just sometimes extremely predatory fish that may not be larger but can still eat an adult female clown fish......ahem (angler) or a 4" orange toad fish that ate a 6" blue throat trigger.
I hope this clears up any miscommunication I may have perpetrated, and my level of experience.
thanks for sharing. And yeah, my CB sen is an absolute coward which is totally fine by me after viewing that vid.
) I also believe in the correlation between Calmness and scavenging vs. aggression and hunting behaviors. That’s cool that you are also able to keep the LJs and the UJs peacefully together.