Pond Prime is identical to Prime?

[Scorponok]

Don't know if this is old news but I just found out that Pond Prime is identical to Prime, and the reason for different dosage is due to application, not concentration.

So basically the concentration/ingredients of Pond Prime and Prime are the same. But Pond has different rating because of its intended usage for two reasons,

1. The dosage is smaller for a pond as the surface area is larger allowing for more outgassing of chlorinea.
2. A pond has far fewer fish as compared to the average aquarium per volume of water.

Can anyone confirm this?

 

[ScatMan]

you could e-mail seachem, they're pretty fast at responding.

i e-mailed them about the differences between matrix and de-nitrate (because i'm 99.9999% sure it's the exact same stuff) but they kinda dodged the question.

keep us posted because i've been using pond prime at 1/2 dose on all my tanks... makes me worry now!

 

[Laticauda]

Well, the stocking of a tank has nothing to do with how much Prime needed for dechlorination, so I'm a little confused.

The bottle of regular Prime does state that if you have low levels of chlorine, and high temperatures, you can use half-dose.

 

[Laticauda]

Also! I was just thinking, even if Pond Prime is not 2x more concentrated, and is the exact same as Prime, I'd rather spend 42 dollars on a 2 liter bottle of Pond Prime, than 45 dollars on a 2 liter bottle of regular Prime!

 

[ScatMan]

Also! I was just thinking, even if Pond Prime is not 2x more concentrated, and is the exact same as Prime, I'd rather spend 42 dollars on a 2 liter bottle of Pond Prime, than 45 dollars on a 2 liter bottle of regular Prime!

That was my logic too.

 

[Juxtaroberto]

Where are y'all getting this stuff in 2 liters? I need to get me some.

 

[Laticauda]

Dr. Fosters and Smith, there's also Ebay. A friend of mine bought a 2 liter on ebay for 25 dollars!

 

[bleublaze55]

Its three dollar difference.... if its just the same thing. Which the authore makes a good point. and yes the stocking does matter because the more fish the more nitrites, ammonia, and nitrates. Hence using more prime to knock those down....

Also! I was just thinking, even if Pond Prime is not 2x more concentrated, and is the exact same as Prime, I'd rather spend 42 dollars on a 2 liter bottle of Pond Prime, than 45 dollars on a 2 liter bottle of regular Prime!

 

[Laticauda]

Its three dollar difference.... if its just the same thing. Which the authore makes a good point. and yes the stocking does matter because the more fish the more nitrites, ammonia, and nitrates. Hence using more prime to knock those down....

No, your tank should be cycled, and you shouldn't even have ammonia and nitrItes. The only way to control nitrAtes is to remove debris/gunk buildup from your filters and media...and WATER CHANGES.

The only time I use Prime is when I am adding new water, so no....your stocking level should have nothing to do with the amount of Prime you use. ALSO, Prime detoxifies UP TO 1 ppm of ammonia, so if you have 1 ppm of ammonia in your pond, you would need to use the standard dose of Prime, not half dose, as instructed on Pond Prazi. 1ppm is 1ppm, regardless of the size of your tank/pond, or your stocking.

 

[Scorponok]

Well, the stocking of a tank has nothing to do with how much Prime needed for dechlorination, so I'm a little confused.

The bottle of regular Prime does state that if you have low levels of chlorine, and high temperatures, you can use half-dose.

Well, I think the logic is if there are ten of us in a shut garage when a car start to leak carbon monoxide for an hour before we can stop the leak and open the window for vent. If that's the case we would be all fighting for oxygen and dying but if there is only one person in the garage he/she might live because no oxygen is consumed by other and the carbon monoxide diffusion rate is slower.

The point is the diffusion rate and detoxification rate come into play depending on the number of stocking.