Pond Prime is identical to Prime?
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Agreed on Prime's use being intended primarily for dechlorinating/preparing new water. As a newb I thought I could skip the occasional water change by just dosing with Prime, but the solids still rose in the water and the pH still dropped, so I learned first-hand there's no reason to try using chemical bandaids when the solution is a simple habitual routine of water changes (or thinning out the stock!).
Scorponok;4772494; said:
You are correct.
The reason they bought out the pond range of products is to market their product range into other business areas which typically would not use their previous products, such as the garden and landscape industry. The liquid based pond products are all the same as the normal product. Seachem probably won't tell you this just like de-nitrate and matrix.
Seachem tell you to use aquarium prime in an aquarium and pond prime in a pond. I enquired to a company about this ages ago, they emailed seachem and the reply was that.
It is in their interest to have you buying the more expensive aquarium stuff at less concentration than for you to save money by using the pond stuff at less cost and higher concentration.
API melafix is the same, the pond stuff is cheaper and of a higher concentration but the same stuff. There are probably a few things like this, I'm sure if I emailed a company about what sponge to use in my aquarium filter they would say the best stuff would be the more expensive, pre-cut aquarium sponge rather than the large pond filter sheets I can cut myself.
It is in their interest to have you buying the more expensive aquarium stuff at less concentration than for you to save money by using the pond stuff at less cost and higher concentration.
API melafix is the same, the pond stuff is cheaper and of a higher concentration but the same stuff. There are probably a few things like this, I'm sure if I emailed a company about what sponge to use in my aquarium filter they would say the best stuff would be the more expensive, pre-cut aquarium sponge rather than the large pond filter sheets I can cut myself.
You use less pond prime than regular prime to treat the same amount of water. For example regular prime is 1 cap / 50gallons. Pond Prime is 1 tablespoon for 300 gallons. I dont know the exact cap-to-tablespoon conversion, but I would guess 2 caps are about 1 tablespoon.
johnny roastbeef;4876314; said:
1 capful of seachem prime = 5mL
1 tbsp = 15mL
5mL prime/50gallons = 0.1mL/gallon
15mL pond prime/325gallons = 0.046mL/gallon
0.1mL/gallon / 0.046mL/gallon = 2.17
So each mL of pond prime treats more than twice the gallons compared to regular prime.
1 gallon of Prime $75.99
http://www.bigalsonline.com/Fish_Additives_Water-Conditioners_Prime_8059393_82.html?tc=default
1 gallon of Ultimate $35.95 http://www.jehmco.com/html/water_conditioners.html
Ultimate is great stuff,and Prime is as well but I'll go with the less expensive(half the price) and just as good without the sulfur smell.
http://www.bigalsonline.com/Fish_Additives_Water-Conditioners_Prime_8059393_82.html?tc=default
1 gallon of Ultimate $35.95 http://www.jehmco.com/html/water_conditioners.html
Ultimate is great stuff,and Prime is as well but I'll go with the less expensive(half the price) and just as good without the sulfur smell.
Seachem claims that Pond Prime is not simply a more concentrated version of Prime, but instead the same chemical, but it treats a different amount of water due to higher surface area and water circulation. All I have to say to that is, "yeah, right!"
But I guess they wouldn't make more money on Prime if everyone used Pond Prime instead!
But I guess they wouldn't make more money on Prime if everyone used Pond Prime instead!
Laticauda;4876750; said:
They are taking care of that problem. Last year I paid $34.39 for a 2L bottle of PP. This year I paid $42.99 (both times from F&S Aquatics).
