Pound for Pound toughest fish?

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You didn't believe the guy who said his jardini owned his 2 dovii.

Don't be an ignoramus, if you've never owned a jardini how the **** do you know? They are mean mean fish, it's not uncommon for a jardini to suddenly turn and clear his tank of tankmates.

A striata of all things? What the ****? This goes to show your VERY limited knowledge of channas. Striatas are mean, meaner than reds, reds are hungrier.

I've owned 2 reds and 1 albino striata. The first red grew to 30 inches and was a killer, but it was not as downright nasty as my 10 inch striata that I just sold, which attacks ANYTHING you put in, anything at all, and attacks you through the glass. Don't believe me? Ask zix who posts here, I just sold it to him. In fact scroll up a bit and you'll see a post from him relating to my striata.

The burden of proof is EQUALLY on you, you're claiming a dovii is the baddest of them all, myself and several others are claiming channas are badder. WHats the difference? I bet you've never even owned a snakehead.

Did you watch the video?

Do you have a video of a dovii ripping a similar sized fish in half? Didn't think so.

Show me a video of a dovii - any size - ripping a similar sized fish in half, otherwise your argument is baloney.
 
rumblesushi said:
You didn't believe the guy who said his jardini owned his 2 dovii.

Don't be an ignoramus, if you've never owned a jardini how the **** do you know? They are mean mean fish, it's not uncommon for a jardini to suddenly turn and clear his tank of tankmates.

A striata of all things? What the ****? This goes to show your VERY limited knowledge of channas. Striatas are mean, meaner than reds, reds are hungrier.

I've owned 2 reds and 1 albino striata. The first red grew to 30 inches and was a killer, but it was not as downright nasty as my 10 inch striata that I just sold, which attacks ANYTHING you put in, anything at all, and attacks you through the glass. Don't believe me? Ask zix who posts here, I just sold it to him. In fact scroll up a bit and you'll see a post from him relating to my striata.

The burden of proof is EQUALLY on you, you're claiming a dovii is the baddest of them all, myself and several others are claiming channas are badder. WHats the difference? I bet you've never even owned a snakehead.

Did you watch the video?

Do you have a video of a dovii ripping a similar sized fish in half? Didn't think so.

Show me a video of a dovii - any size - ripping a similar sized fish in half, otherwise your argument is baloney.
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It is common knowledge that when someone resorts to name calling they have lost the argument. As to the Jardini, anecdotes prove nothing, show me the video of a Jardini owning a 20 inch Dovii. I am supremely confident it will never be produced. Unless of course you fix the fight like they did with the reds and the clarias. Even then I doubt the jardini will win.
That video of the Reds killing the clarias is so unfair to the clarias I can't believe you actually point to it as proof of anything. Every fish keeper knows that a newly introduced fish is at a severe disadvantage. Is that how you set up your striata so he could have the advantage over poor disoriented fish? If I starved my Dovii for a week and then dropped those same 2 reds in his tank he would kill and eat them easily.
And finally where do I claim that the Dovii is the baddest of them all?
The burden of proof is on the one who is bragging. I am calling your bluff SHOW ME VIDEO PROOF or be quiet.
 
kevin714 said:
It is common knowledge that when someone resorts to name calling they have lost the argument. As to the Jardini, anecdotes prove nothing, show me the video of a Jardini owning a 20 inch Dovii. I am supremely confident it will never be produced. Unless of course you fix the fight like they did with the reds and the clarias. Even then I doubt the jardini will win.
That video of the Reds killing the clarias is so unfair to the clarias I can't believe you actually point to it as proof of anything. Every fish keeper knows that a newly introduced fish is at a severe disadvantage. Is that how you set up your striata so he could have the advantage over poor disoriented fish? If I starved my Dovii for a week and then dropped those same 2 reds in his tank he would kill and eat them easily.
And finally where do I claim that the Dovii is the baddest of them all?
The burden of proof is on the one who is bragging. I am calling your bluff SHOW ME VIDEO PROOF or be quiet.
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The problem being here is you require even playing fields it’s the same for the snakehead starve if for a week and it will be just as aggressive as if it hasn’t been starve. What we are trying to get at here is just sheer blooded aggression. As I stated before I have had the pair of them and yes a Dovii is a mean mofo. But what I think you don’t appreciate and what rumblesushi is trying to get across is they do :swear: about they are nasty territorial .fish even killing some fish that they don’t want to eat. I have heard accounts of swimmers being attacked when they are spawning. They kill to protect there turf. And as for Channa striata a 3 foot one of these is still and handful. I have had loads of snakeheads from dwarf to Channa marulius (this actuality is the biggest and can get up to five feet in length and 60+ pounds in its native Asia but the red was just the most aggressive mean fish I have ever had. The man that had it off me put it in his tank with his huge Oscar large Arowana a 2 ft knife fish well the red did the lot bit the Arrow in half this is not the ramblings of an idiot (my wife might argue this) its just facts and what I have seen over the ???? Years I have kept fish.
 
kevin - it's as simple as this - you're claiming a dovii would whup an equal size (same weight?) channa or jardini. You have no video to prove it, so why do I need to provide one?

LIke stotty and I have both tried to point out is that large badass cichlids bicker over territory, sure they can be nasty, but snakeheads are outright killers. Do you think a dovii would rip a similar sized fish in half like that?

And ask sgland if he starved them for a week, I don't think he did. They are wild caught snakeheads, that's probably why they were so savage and one of them nailed the clarias as soon as it hit the water. My point is simply whan even an 11 inch snakehead is capable of.

You obviously like dovii's and have no experience with channas or jardinis. I have experience with all of them. I guess the 2 most aggressive cichlids I have had are dovii and jag, both of them were not devastating at all compared to a bad channa or jardini. I currently have a loisellei too, which is not aggressive at all.

The dovii was killed by the striata, and the jag wanted no part of the channa at all, just hid all the time. So I rescued it, put it with my jardini. My jardini didn't like it and battered it so I sold it. My jardini also battered a texas cichlid so I fed it to my wolf. My jardini at 10 inches also whupped an 8 inch micro, almost killed it. Yet at around 8 inches, my 6 inch striata beat the crap out of the jardini, no contest, and I seperated them. Jardinis are not to be messed around with, but the single baddest fish I've owned is the albino striata. And you scoffing at a "striata of all things" shows just how limited your knowledge of snakeheads is. Like I said, ask the member here zix how mean the striata is, I recently sold it to him.

I didn't insult you kevin, I simply told you not to be an ignoramus, which is exactly what you're being. Stotty and I are not kids, we're not making this up, we're speaking from experience.

Put a wild caught dovii in the same tank as a wild caught micropeltes of the same weight (I would guess the dovii would be say 15 inches to the channa's 24 inches) and I would bet on the channa without hesitation. That's under your ideal circumstances, a divided tank, both put in at the same time, starved for a few days, then remove the divider.

If you like dovii's, fair enough, they are cool fish. But don't talk crap. I bet you've never even owned a channa.
 
Still no video? Just alot of blah blah blah. Sorry I'm not buying it. Anyone can say the are an expert or expierienced on here. Thats why its pointless to argue my credentials with you. I and you can say anything on the internet, people do it everyday. Calling someone an ignoramus is not an insult in your country? Hmmm! Very strange indeed!
I think when the world reads these posts they will conclude I am winning my point.
 
I think a wolf would own all pound for pound.I have no experience to prove it but the ones I have seen have done some serious damage to other fish.
 
totally agree with rumblesushi
 
This is a dumb argument, even if you took one of each at identicle weights and simulaneously dropped them into a tank it proves only that the winner of that bout was tougher, or quicker than that loser, a single bout is not a good enough sample. Without actually doing several fights this kind of thread is nothing more than mental masturbation.

As a species, pound for pound (Gambusia affinis) are probably the TOUGHEST fish around, not because they eat other fish, not because they fight, but because they are now one of the most widespread wild fish on the planet and no matter where you live there are probably some wild ones living within 100 miles of you. They adapt to anything from nearly marine water to soft,acid meadow ponds, ice rimmed rivers to tropical swamps, road side ditches to mountain brooks, they have even been known to live in sewage settling ponds, and that is in spite of the fact that damn near everything eats them. Now that is one tough breed.

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gilly said:
totally agree with rumblesushi
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Thankyou Gilly ;) Another level headed poster got my back.

As you can see Kevin it seems others that have read the posts think I'm winning the argument, not you. You're full of it.

This is a discussion forum, we discuss things, not every argument needs to be backed up with a video.

How many fish fighting videos are there on here? 1 or 2?

It's not realistic to expect a "which is tougher?" argument to be backed up with a video, it's a naive and childish attitude.

And blah blah blah, where the **** is the video of the dovii ripping a similar sized fish in half? :D
 
How bout a bull shark?
 
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