Powerfeeding Umbee?

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cchhcc;3033893; said:
Clean water is the important thing.

Also, opinions vary, but IMO many fish posted on this site are overfed. That second picture above is an example of an overfed fish.....again IMO. The first picture shows the shape a trimac would have naturally. You can force feed your fish to the point that excess growth results in an unnatural shape.

Keep in mind that fish do not have a well developed "appetite inhibitor." They generally try to eat 24/7 in the wild since food is so scarce. They cannot constantly find food, but they need to continuously look if they are to survive. In an aquarium, they will eat to the point of being unhealthy.

If I were going to try to grow a fish in a healthy manner at a reasonably high rate, I'd feed several small meals a day and change water several times a week.


Second. Nothing works as well as variety and small portions more in conjunction with clean large frequent water changes. It also help if you can try and be as specific to their natural diet in the wild. Protein vs. Carbs

Mo
 
Clean Water!!!! That's the most important thing! Feed him a few times a day if you can, but not till he won't come to the top anymore. That will only foul your water and make the fish "fat" and unhealthy. Good varied diet and again CLEAN WATER!!! This is more important with Umbees than many other species. He will be a monster before you know it and you will have to atch the other fish in the tank when you put him in there! Good luck.
 
Aquamojo;3034781; said:
Second. Nothing works as well as variety and small portions more in conjunction with clean large frequent water changes. It also help if you can try and be as specific to their natural diet in the wild. Protein vs. Carbs

Mo
Perfectly said!!
 
Third - fat fish are about as "healthy" as fat people...

I actually prefer smaller (55/75-ish) tanks to monster ones for growing out single fish to the 7-8" mark: less food goes to waste and easier to do large, frequent water changes.

I'm also an advocate of live (non-feeder fish) food: earthworms, red worms, super worms, stray bugs from around the house yard...as a supplement to NLS, Omega One, and Kensfish prepared foods.

Matt


Aquamojo;3034781; said:
Second. Nothing works as well as variety and small portions more in conjunction with clean large frequent water changes. It also help if you can try and be as specific to their natural diet in the wild. Protein vs. Carbs

Mo
 
Also, opinions vary, but IMO many fish posted on this site are overfed. That second picture above is an example of an overfed fish.....again IMO. The first picture shows the shape a trimac would have naturally. You can force feed your fish to the point that excess growth results in an unnatural shape.

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It seems that some hobbyists become so fixated on growth, that they forget what these fish actually look like in the wild. Power feeding & power growth is not only unnatural, it places a great deal of stress on the fish and in many cases will eventually cause premature death.
 
Avoid shrimp on a regular basis, it contains thiaminase which inhibits proper tissue formation. It's fine as a weekly treat, though.
 
cchhcc;3033893; said:
Clean water is the important thing.

Also, opinions vary, but IMO many fish posted on this site are overfed. That second picture above is an example of an overfed fish.....again IMO. The first picture shows the shape a trimac would have naturally. You can force feed your fish to the point that excess growth results in an unnatural shape.

Keep in mind that fish do not have a well developed "appetite inhibitor." They generally try to eat 24/7 in the wild since food is so scarce. They cannot constantly find food, but they need to continuously look if they are to survive. In an aquarium, they will eat to the point of being unhealthy.

If I were going to try to grow a fish in a healthy manner at a reasonably high rate, I'd feed several small meals a day and change water several times a week.
Excellent advice.... well written and explained...
 
cchhcc-his Trimac looks fine in both pictures-nothing unnatural about it at all. Thing with Trimacs is that they are gluttons and will eat and eat til their stomach explodes. As they mature and get larger they will slow down and not eat as much-I like what Aph. is doing-for years I have powerfed my fish like that and never had problems.
 
I am not saying to feed him til he can't move but at the same time don't starve the fish. I personally feed my fish 2-3 times a day. In the morning i give them Cichlid Pellets, afternoon either brine shrimp or blood worms, and in the evening Spirulina Flakes-I want my fish to have a slight bulge in the stomach area-remember I used the word slight. Nothing wrong with a fish that is happy and not starving especially when small I want my fish to bulk up.
 
Holy cow I am arguing with myself!
Anyways let me make one thing clear I disagree with Aph. about feeding the fish til it doesn't go to the top for more food. I am simply saying there is nothing wrong with a fish that is satisfied. A little bulge in the stomach is fine-because if you don't feed your fish the right type of foods and enough food then your fish will become weak and be susceptible to disease. BTW-I allow my fish to fast once a week.
 
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