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Mr. and Mrs. Dayak, I will help you with building a sump the best I can although it is always wise to seek other set up to see what you like best.

IMHO It is very important for tank placement where Monster water volume can drain easily. I have my dirty water drain down to my basement sump, which then pumps out side. Every system has to be engineered accordingly. With My sump design, the micron filter socks keep my water extra crispy(Working on a new video for my arowana community grow out and you will see my crispy water soon)!

sump is a mirror of my sketch.
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Like in every sump there is Mechanical/Bio/Return and mine is just this simple. There are many, many, MANY... different set ups for a sump like drip plates, blah, blah, blah... I decided to go very simple with the basics and it works for me.

With a little DIY, I would like to share with you how I do large water changes next. I plumbed pvc pipes down to a drain and with a 180 degree turn my water drains 50%. So I can walk away and have a beer. When you are ready I will personally make a video showing you how my system drains.

So you guys have had experience with caring for smaller fish in the past which is great. The only difference I see in raising monster fish is the fact that you will spend :uhoh:thousands of dollars instead of ;)hundreds on set up and filtration. But after that initial plunge, maintaining does not really cost that much compared to other hobbies:woot:. Unless you become a fish hoarder(wife is starting to call me this:screwy:).

I think its Outstanding to see a couple both enthusiastic about fish keeping. You guys can pick my brain all you want although I am an arowana keeper in training myself still and always learning from those with successful systems.
 
Will be picking your brain like mad come february. I want my water drainage to go directly to my vegetable garden...good good stuff!
 
In that case, I would have mr. dayak pumb all around your veggie garden like a sprinkler system with gravity feeding the soil the nitrates. Should be pretty simple but he will have to start digging, leveling, drilling holes in the pvc. Once this is set up you should be set.
 
;)Road trip.... great price Or just save 3kish for a 450:naughty:.
 
LOL, thats way in the east, and no i dont have truck to load it up into, would be better for to so settle locally if i could, so i could rent a UHAUL :ROFL:
i do interested on custom set-up and like yours for instance..looks briliant!!
i might have to borrow your "blue print" and make it my own, ofcourse credit will be given to u :naughty:
but yeah when we have larger tank after this grow-out it would be great to plumb the waste water to her garden which i could easily make it :headbang2
 
mrs.dayak;4781557; said:
That sounds like good advice. I do intend to breed some mollies since it is so easy and the kids will love it...didn't realize the hunt could harm the aro though :S Also didn't think of the cricket floating...i'm not the brightest bulb on the tree, as you can see :P
Once the aro adapts to pellets is it wise to let them eat ANYTHING live?
As it grows, don't you feed it larger feeder fish, as opposed to mollies? I wouldn't mind breeding, and I have a friend offering me a free 30 gal tank that could be used for breeding slightly larger fish...not much though. Hmmm...so much to think about...fun stuff though. Sorry if i'm being a bit pesty :S
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The hunting itself won't harm the arowana (unless it bangs itself against the glass while lunging, or something), but it's the quality of the feeders. The only bigger fish that's super easy to breed is the convict cichlid, but they're nasty little things. I hate them. They usually evade predation and end up growing up and living in the tank where you intended them to be food.

After the aro is pellet trained, you can let them have live if you want to, although I strongly recommend feeding live food you bred yourself for the aforementioned reasons (possible disease, low nutrient content, etc). Usually, if you can get them to eat pellets, they'll always accept them afterward. And most will also accept meats (only feed fish meet, nothing mammalian) from the get go. Just feed a variety of foods.

Another great live food are worms. I read about a study done on fish fed worms, and they tended to be healthier, larger, and have a larger amount of offspring. It was thought that this was because when you feed earthworms, you're feeding the meat, the organs, the skin, etc, while most other foods contain mostly meats and such.
 
mrs.dayak;4782482; said:
Bderick, i think the point is that we used a 20 g tank to originally house the arowana. It was a very temporary arrangement, but despite that, there was alot of disbelief and flaming that we would do such a thing. Even the larger tank is temporary for these fish, while we build up.
I'm trying very hard to diffuse the filtration and original tank set up issues, and glean knowledge from you, and everyone else here. So far we're doing good!
Please, no more sniping here. That means OP, too.
I would love your input on decent filtration. As i've mentioned, i've always overdone filtration in my community tanks. Bomber is going to advise us on a decent sump pump set up for our near-future tank. I've subscribed to a recent thread about silent sump set ups, which absolutely rocks! (Will give credit to the OP of that thread very soon)
What do you think? I want a 300 gal minimum by the end of february. If 300 gal is all i can find between now and then, that's what it will be, but only until i can find something larger.
I've noticed that with patience, one can find some screaming deals on craigslist, and a temporary tank can be quite easily turned for a profit. Do you agree?
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Well I have given advise. I have given observations, IMO the replies I have gotten from the OP are snide. His last reply was to my post that was not even addressed to him, yet he wants to be a smart butt. Please refer in this thread where I said anything about the 20g tank. You two seem to be the only ones that are bringing it up. Everyone else is past that.

Need to not worry about the volume of the tank. More important is the footprint. For larger aros it is best that the aro is kept in a tank that is at least 3 times it's own length and has a width at least equal to it's length. In a year that arowana will be near 24". From that point on growth will slow to 1-2" per year. Probably best to figure that with proper care the arowana will get to be 30-36" in length. Of coarse growth may be slowed considerably if poorly kept.
 
the temperature i have in the taank is currently at 80 exact, now would it be better if hotter or lower, whats the sweet spot?
 
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