Pup tanks and drips?

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The water dept told me there's been no chloramine use here in 20 years and assured me there are no plans to in the future.

Here's the test..... :popcorn:

These are random tests amongst different water sources at my place.

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How are you dechlorinating your water ? do you run carbon ? use an injector for a dechlorinator ?

Municipal water may not as accurate as they're telling IMO. I do know they add extra chlorine and chloramine after heavy rain to protect the water supplies from river and lake run offs

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I just run carbon filters. Have for years. There was a LFS here ran for 20+ years on the same carbon filter means of removing chlorine.

I can't imagine chlorimine being justifiable in the kind of population numbers we have around here. Population's like 8K.... lol
 
Skip the drip. Kept many pups without it with weekly water change. My water is treated with anti chlorine and left to age and aerate for a day. Never had a casualty from water change.

A mature tank with exactly the same water as the parents tank is the way to go. I change the pups tank with the main tank's water.

Change is bad. You will just be discovering new ways to kill a ray. I've had more causalities with 'improvements' and medication then without. Now I wouldn't mess with what works. Rays primitive internal system are bad with chemicals.
 
The test tubes in the pic above are from my 750 with a heavy drip, the 240 with no drip at all, the 75 gallon pup tank with a mild drip, directly out of the tap (pre drip), my juvie ray tank with dirty filters and heavy stock on a mild drip, and directly out of the drip manifold. Looks all the same to me..... Zero.

Lincolngoh I agree volume is key with pups. I really though that 75 was enough but maybe it's not. I know out of my first litter I was able to save the last one only by moving it away from the pond's system, which got large water changes. Pups definetly don't seem to handle change well.
 
sorry for your water trouble, i know my rays hate the smallest amount of ammonia i use to drip stopped a year ago. i have not noticed a dif in my setups sence but i am sure there are a lot of factors involved. it seems that once i stopped trying to figure the perfect setup for the rays the the more success i have had prob just luck. i just know all my rays hate ammonia good luck hope all is well .
 
DB junkie;5153625; said:
The test tubes in the pic above are from my 750 with a heavy drip, the 240 with no drip at all, the 75 gallon pup tank with a mild drip, directly out of the tap (pre drip), my juvie ray tank with dirty filters and heavy stock on a mild drip, and directly out of the drip manifold. Looks all the same to me..... Zero.

Lincolngoh I agree volume is key with pups. I really though that 75 was enough but maybe it's not. I know out of my first litter I was able to save the last one only by moving it away from the pond's system, which got large water changes. Pups definetly don't seem to handle change well.
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DB, i kept my latter litter of pups of 6, in a 20 breeder for a few weeks with a HOB, everyone started eating fine and did great. I did a 5 gallon water change every other day. These were regular motoros however, maybe they are much hardier.
 
I just know that when I had my pup tank on my pond the pups dropped like flies till I moved the last one to a 40 breeder with no drip. She did fine. Still with me today almost 2 years later.

2nd batch of pups.... Immediately moved them from pond to a similar setup... No drip. Just fine. All very healthy. All 3 are alive and well today.

This pup did just fine for 6 weeks. Ate like a pig twice a day.

Ac110 and fluval 405 on a 75 gallon. The 1 pup and 4 dinky lil MBUs. Never any aggresion towards the ray only towards the puffers at feeding time.

I kept the drip on thinking this would keep the water as consisant as possible.

MBUs are supposed to be poison to other fish correct? Could chewing on one have ill affects? I've never seen a single mark on the puffers but was just curious about the toxicity of them.

Well I'm open to suggestions on how NOT to kill the next batch as I imagine they aren't too far out.

So ideal pup setup........ Small tank giant sump? Small tank so they find food easy, yet a giant volume of water for stability. NO DRIP, but rather aged water changed in small regular amounts?

I suspect the only reason for any ammonia that was present was from cleaning the HOB that morning. Tested day prior to cleaning-0 tested last night-0.

I officially retract the ammonia statement. Really don't think that's the issue.

Could mom just have been so small and so stressed that the pup just wasn't really as healthy as he appeared?
 
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