Question for people over 50, also anyone else who's got input.

[rallysman]

I'll just share what I've leaned in my healthcare management classes.......You can't compare generations. Don't try to compare them because they never will be the same. Try to understand them so you can utilize each for their advantages.


We are now in the information age.

 

[EmilyMarie85]

I think a "lazy - desk job" generation is the LEAST of the problems... we live in a time when the words rape, murder, drive by, serial killer and burglary are an everyday thing, and most people dont even look twice, its just more of the usual... if i was going to complain about todays generation i would start there... a desk job might be a "soft/weak" job - but hell, i'll take the soft and weak desk working generation over the welfare, gang banger generation any day...

 

[rallysman]

The more I think about it, the more I'd like to challenge people who think that not doing physical labor is "lazy". Take a break from swinging your hammer and try to fix an anesthesia machine while someone is cut open on an operating table.

"Hard" work is relative. Everything is difficult in it's own sense.

 

[dingoofus]

Meh, I'm not ashamed. Time changes, it never stays the same. gas goes up and down, stock plummet then rise, nothing stays the same. I'm a happy 20 year old, I don't have a office job. I would probably qualify as a semi-hard labor job, but who cares. I love where I am, and if you think this generation is lazy, then that's great. Either way I like where I am and as long as I have a job that supports me and future family and fish of course, and I have friends to make me happy I could care less. Sorry didn't mean to offend anyone, you asked I told.

No offence taken, lol.

We might be "softer" but 100 years ago, people lived much shorter lives, infants died at an alarming rate, and people were very uneducated.

I don't think we are all "weak". I'm a 28 year old mother of 2. I have a full time job. It's a desk job, but I worked 3 years 12 hour night shifts with an infant then toddler to get here- didn't put my daughter in daycare til she was 2, usually got 2 hours of sleep.

In less than 2 years time (2006-2008ish) I had 6 surgeries. In August 2008, I passed out, fell, and broke my leg and ankle in three places- had my husband help me up, took a shower, waited 3 hours to go to the emergency room. They finally gave me something for pain like 2 hours after I got there, then took me for surgery- had a pretty good sized rod, pins and screws in my leg- hospital two nights. I fell/had surgery Tuesday- I was back to work the following Sunday (in a wheelchair, but I was there). 3 months later, my husband and I spearated- I was still using a walker. I had to walk around downtown on a walker, trying to talk to a lawyer, domestic voilence people, courts- oh did I mention my ex is a cop and made my life liveing he**?? Ask me how many days of work I missed....1 or 2 maybe, because when I was moving out in a hurry I twisted the ankle I had broken a few months before.

So now I'm a single mom w/ 2 kids....but it's all made me stronger. And my mom is a single mom, and we all live together in her 4-bedroom house she worked for.

We're not all lazy

Yeh there are the few who aren't lazy such as yourself, imagine though, back in the day they prob had 9 plus kids, imagine if you were a widow back then.

I have to disagree with this though, "We might be "softer" but 100 years ago, people lived much shorter lives, infants died at an alarming rate, and people were very uneducated."

My great grandma is still alive and kicking today, she's 90 or something, lol. But I actually think alot of people back then will have outlived todays generation, due to fat people. They are everywhere, you can't tell me a fat person will outlive somone who is in peak physical condition and worked full time since they were 12?. They would not survive if they were put in a time machine and transported back to the 1800's.

Also on the we are more educated thing. I reckon people back then were more educated than todays generation. We rely on technology to solvo ur problems and such. Back then you didnt have a calculator, you had to use your brain to work it out. Honestly, I've forgotten most of my times tables due to calculators. I'm definatley not as educated as the generations passed.

I am 41, I come from a single mother family where my mother went to university full time and worked her buns off to finish and become a teacher. She never stopped working and it is from her I learned my work ethic.

Personally this has become the generation of people's rights when it should actually be the time to say RIGHT people!!!!!

This whole I am entitled theme that runs through society is the endemic that is the cancer of today's world. Also so many 25 and unders who look at what their parents have and fail to realize that such things came from years and years of hard work and did not suddenly just show up because they could get it on credit and pay for it later.

Also there is the digusting change in the way of thinking that life consists in the abundance of possessions that you have and that your worth is measured as well by these things.

I advocate and endorse a work for welfare approach to the social assisstance way of life.

I agree also that the advance in technology has also bred softness into society and those being shaped by this society!

Personally during the school year I work 6 days a week min 12 hrs a day up to 16 hrs. Add to that the time I am putting in building my fish company, I average about 3-5 hours of sleep a night with a recharge period every 2 weeks. I like to say the dreams and visions do not take shape of themselves.

I really think one of the major issues with this world we live in is VICARIOUS EXISTENCE!!!!! By this I mean so many people of all ages have given up their own dreams, visions and passions and have fallen prey to the trappings of the idolize the star of their choice whether it be movies, sports or music. Settling for the brief mistake of thinking life is simply existing, living beneath till they go beneath.

There is a bit more I would put but I think I have gone on long enough.

In short I really think it is not so much the laziness that is the issue, but, rather it is the very clear effort to dumb down society that has been propagated by those who wish society to be filled with sheeple rather than people.

One last thing. I really think it is the severing of ties with rural life in anyway that is one of the main roots of this problem with society. Cut the rural out and replace it with urban and issues happen.

Yeh, I don't tink much people have a work ethic these days. I know a few people who are happy to laze around all day and not do anything.

For example, when my great grandfather was 12, his father died and left his mum a widow to several children. My great grandad then went out and worked across the country, sending most his pay back to his widowed mum, and he was 12. How many people would be tough enough to do that now?

I'll just share what I've leaned in my healthcare management classes.......You can't compare generations. Don't try to compare them because they never will be the same. Try to understand them so you can utilize each for their advantages.


We are now in the information age.

I dunno, surely they were saying you can't compare generation in terms of healthcare? since it was a healthcare management class. And not referring to how th new generation has turned soft and can't handle the working life of the past?

The more I think about it, the more I'd like to challenge people who think that not doing physical labor is "lazy". Take a break from swinging your hammer and try to fix an anesthesia machine while someone is cut open on an operating table.

"Hard" work is relative. Everything is difficult in it's own sense.

The hard labourer might say, "sure, I'll have a shot at fixing your machine, just as long as you finish that concreting over there while I'm away." lol.

 

[Red Devil]

No offence taken, lol.



Yeh there are the few who aren't lazy such as yourself, imagine though, back in the day they prob had 9 plus kids, imagine if you were a widow back then.

I have to disagree with this though, "We might be "softer" but 100 years ago, people lived much shorter lives, infants died at an alarming rate, and people were very uneducated."

My great grandma is still alive and kicking today, she's 90 or something, lol. But I actually think alot of people back then will have outlived todays generation, due to fat people. They are everywhere, you can't tell me a fat person will outlive somone who is in peak physical condition and worked full time since they were 12?. They would not survive if they were put in a time machine and transported back to the 1800's.

Also on the we are more educated thing. I reckon people back then were more educated than todays generation. We rely on technology to solvo ur problems and such. Back then you didnt have a calculator, you had to use your brain to work it out. Honestly, I've forgotten most of my times tables due to calculators. I'm definatley not as educated as the generations passed.



Yeh, I don't tink much people have a work ethic these days. I know a few people who are happy to laze around all day and not do anything.

For example, when my great grandfather was 12, his father died and left his mum a widow to several children. My great grandad then went out and worked across the country, sending most his pay back to his widowed mum, and he was 12. How many people would be tough enough to do that now?



I dunno, surely they were saying you can't compare generation in terms of healthcare? since it was a healthcare management class. And not referring to how th new generation has turned soft and can't handle the working life of the past?



The hard labourer might say, "sure, I'll have a shot at fixing your machine, just as long as you finish that concreting over there while I'm away." lol.

according to alot of the old timers up here in upstate ny ... their fathers and grandfathers got by because everyone helped each other... if you needed a barn they would all help build the barn... if you needed food they shared theirs...all the farmers shared their crops and sold the rest... every thing back then depended on the back bone of the community.. and it succeeded because they all helped each other..

 

[jcardona1]

I'll just share what I've leaned in my healthcare management classes.......You can't compare generations. Don't try to compare them because they never will be the same. Try to understand them so you can utilize each for their advantages.


We are now in the information age.

EDIT: quoted wrong post

smartest post in this thread.

cant compare as there's no point. those that do are the ones that are stuck in the old days. i have a desk job in the corporate world. those that say im lazy because im not out in the sun sweating are full of it. any monkey can swing a hammer, pick fruit, dig holes, turn a wrench, push a lawnmower etc etc. but it takes a whole lot more to succeed in the new business world.

blue collar work is physically demanding, white collar work is mentally demanding. i think its good change. just look at our technology. we are so much smarter and can do so much more than before.

those that refuse to accept change will rot away in the "old times". not me, im jumping on the train

 

[ShadowStryder]

I am 46 and I would say my kids and most of their friends I have met are soft when it comes to actually working.
And they are growing bigger these days.

 

[dingoofus]

EDIT: quoted wrong post

smartest post in this thread.

cant compare as there's no point. those that do are the ones that are stuck in the old days. i have a desk job in the corporate world. those that say im lazy because im not out in the sun sweating are full of it. any monkey can swing a hammer, pick fruit, dig holes, turn a wrench, push a lawnmower etc etc. but it takes a whole lot more to succeed in the new business world.

blue collar work is physically demanding, white collar work is mentally demanding. i think its good change. just look at our technology. we are so much smarter and can do so much more than before.

those that refuse to accept change will rot away in the "old times". not me, im jumping on the train

Mate, I guess I insulted you with my lazy talk. But comparing the workers of old and physical labourors to that of monkeys is low, and show how little respect you have for the common people of the world. Anyways, even if a monkey could do what you said, that monkey would b tougher than most people these days.

And the technology might be more advanced, but due to this I don't think people's intelligence has advanced. Technolgy makes things easier for us, which means we don't need to use our brains or muscles as much. I don't think it improves our brain power or physical fitness in anyway.

 

[dingoofus]

I am 46 and I would say my kids and most of their friends I have met are soft when it comes to actually working.
And they are growing bigger these days.

I got a 12 year old ocusin and he acts like he's 6, and he's fat. I can't see him doing much work anytime soon, lol.

 

[cichlaguapote]

I've done both types of work. Both have advantages/disadvantages. Sweating out gallons of water everyday, and being uber physically tired sucks. But so does having so much stress at your desk job that your stomach turns when you go to work. So neither is cake. I mean it's work.

The world wouldn't run without either one. I will say that blue collar jobs seem to have a lot more "real" people in them. White collar work you always seem have a few people who think everyday is a freakin sunshiny day and make you cringe. I've worked with stupid people that make you wonder how they got dressed in both.