quick question bout tank size

[ethnics]

the 2 oscars are only 3 inches, so im sure 40gal is fine for atleast 6 months. if necessary they will go in my 150 but my mom will buy him a bigger tank within 6 months, trust me. she bought me my 150gal tank when i was only 11 years old. the oscars haven't messed with him since i posted this. i guess they thought his tail was a worm. so they were pickin at it. they got to the stinger n realized it wasn't a worm. they dont pick on him anymore. but either way im splittin the 150 today, removin substrate on her side and puttin sand. she'll be all alone in that area with water chemistry of a 150gal tank so she'll be fine. after a few months or so ill remove the devider. thanks everyone.

 

[benzjamin13]

I see in your signature that you have a 100g tank with small fish in there. Why not pu the ray in there?

 

[ethnics]

I see in your signature that you have a 100g tank with small fish in there. Why not pu the ray in there?

put my ray in with my piranhas? hmm. doesn't sound like a good idea. and 9 piranhas need more then 100gal tank as it is, small or not they'd eat eachother in a smaller tank.

 

[benzjamin13]

put my ray in with my piranhas? hmm. doesn't sound like a good idea. and 9 piranhas need more then 100gal tank as it is, small or not they'd eat eachother in a smaller tank.

Sorry...I thought they were Pacus

 

[kody1192]

And kody1192 others...how about posting your ray tank picks or atleast giving a background history/experience so we know where this advice is coming from.

Dr Joe

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i have pics of my rays and blk arow and other fish on here so if youd like to search them go ahead or ill try to post pics later... as for where my advice is comming from its coming from websites books and OTHER MEMBERS!! from reading post and asking questions... along with some person experience...

Dr Joe do you keep rays??? where is your advice coming from to keep the ray in a 10 gallon?

 

[Dr Joe]

i have pics of my rays and blk arow and other fish on here so if youd like to search them go ahead or ill try to post pics later... as for where my advice is comming from its coming from websites books and OTHER MEMBERS!! from reading post and asking questions... along with some person experience...

Dr Joe do you keep rays??? where is your advice coming from to keep the ray in a 10 gallon?

1) Not any more.

2) 'bout 50yrs experience, plus training, schooling & learnin' (yes they're different).

3) And as someone else stated (that you seem not to have contention with) the tank should be twice as wide aas the ray...3" ray...10" wide tank...you do the math. It was said in the beginning that this was a very temperary thing.

4) I don't give bad or eronious advice, I know from where I speak and if I don't I don't.

And it is Advice...perhaps I'll be able to help you one day too.

But enough about me...seems the ray has reached a resolution by itself. Even without our intervention, huh...

End of Line...

Dr Joe

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[Miles]

4) I don't give bad or eronious advice, I know from where I speak and if I don't I don't.


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I still question a juvenile Stingrays, ANY SPECIES, ANY SIZE, to have the ability to live in a 10g tank... for a 'prolonged' amount of time (1-2 months)

10g is a very small amount of concentrated water.
Water quality, even with excellent filtration, can be an issue because of the large amount of metabolic waste and urea that is secreted from a consistantly feeding individual. They need alot of food, multiple times daily.

Multiple Daily water changes would be a must, or some sort of flow-through system. Perhaps Ammonia removers.. All things that can cause stress. Especially if the operater is not equipped to do so.

Not to mention physical swimming stress because these animals are delicate and intelligent, and need open space to explore. A 10g makes it very hard to meet their basic requirements at a JUVENILE age.

You can use a 'formula' to explain the size that stingrays actually need(at adult sizes? Did you read that in a book?), but lack of swimming space, especially for juveniles, will cause stress, stress will lead to issues.. They will quit feeding, and/or have internal issues.

I just wouldn't reccomend it, unless you take every precaution in the world.. and even then I don't think you would be succesful in 10g's for a 10 week period.




Just my opinion.

Have you ever kept Rays?


PS.
He did the right thing by dividing the tank.

 

[kody1192]

I still question a juvenile Stingrays, ANY SPECIES, ANY SIZE, to have the ability to live in a 10g tank... for a 'prolonged' amount of time (1-2 months)

10g is a very small amount of concentrated water.
Water quality, even with excellent filtration, can be an issue because of the large amount of metabolic waste and urea that is secreted from a consistantly feeding individual. They need alot of food, multiple times daily.

Multiple Daily water changes would be a must, or some sort of flow-through system. Perhaps Ammonia removers.. All things that can cause stress. Especially if the operater is not equipped to do so.

Not to mention physical swimming stress because these animals are delicate and intelligent, and need open space to explore. A 10g makes it very hard to meet their basic requirements at a JUVENILE age.

You can use a 'formula' to explain the size that stingrays actually need(at adult sizes? Did you read that in a book?), but lack of swimming space, especially for juveniles, will cause stress, stress will lead to issues.. They will quit feeding, and/or have internal issues.

I just wouldn't reccomend it, unless you take every precaution in the world.. and even then I don't think you would be succesful in 10g's for a 10 week period.




Just my opinion.

Have you ever kept Rays?


PS.
He did the right thing by dividing the tank.

thanks for posting this cuz i agree this shows almost every reason why it wouldnt be a good idea to do this...yes the ray will fit but it wont be happy...i fit in a closet but im not happy there...but yea he isnt going to put it in the tank so it doesnt matter anymore.. good luck with your ray

 

[hollywood69]

lets see some pics kody!

 

[JCA]

this thread is a joke. who cares who has more experience? obviously ppl dont agree...congradulations! move on dont argue about it to change a persons opinion. in case you all havent noticed...ppl are stubborn! insults and arguing arent going to help

edit: just as a sidenote...the 3" ray in the 10 gallon tank wouldnt really be like a person in a closet. more like a person in a bedroom.