Quick Tigrinus Question

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I have enever owned a Tig, but I have owned alot of various cats.

none have ever killed themselves from starvation. I usually just keep a normal feeding routine of prawns/tilapia and within a week or two they always break and eventually become pigs.

I always found changing foods every other day doesnt do much, but thats just my experience.
 
After reading all the comments on how Jur and Tig are similar, Id make sure that there is pretty good flow.

Day one I noticed my Jur was swimming into the current - and dropping food in there gives it some good motion.

With the lights off he often goes up to the filter output and swims into the current there. Dropped some bloodworms in and he went crazy.

Lights off, and movement seem to be key. Hopefully he starts eating - what an awesome fish. Im pulling for you!

Now I just have to get my Jur on massivore.
 
He maaaay have had a few blood worms last night in the dark. Put them in there and came back in 30 seconds and he was slightly wandering from his spot with about half the cube missing. No way the jar did all that as he comes down for one, eats it, swims away, repeat.


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FLESHY said:
Day one I noticed my Jur was swimming into the current - and dropping food in there gives it some good motion.

With the lights off he often goes up to the filter output and swims into the current there. Lights off, and movement seem to be key. Now I just have to get my Jur on massivore.
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I agree with all of that. My jur recently started randomly snapping up algae wafers (of all things!) so I was able to successfully transition her to Massivore. It took ten months of struggle and heartache.

Damn fish :lol2:
 
Just give him feeders whats the problem???? People starving there fish is madness, ive never starved a fish and they all eventually "break" in time. Just be smart and get something quality. Zebra danios, tetras, baby cichlids....your lfs has to have something not "infected". Fish eat other fish in the wild and nothing makes small monsters grow quicker than feeders. I agree with deubiedoo...set up a quarenteen tank for feeders and toss him a few each night to give the poor fish a meal before he dies. My tig took almost 3 years to stop taking live. He finally budged for shrimp around 12" and is now 18". Im not saying u cant break him quicker, continue to try other foods each day while also feeding live. My fish eat feeders and other prepared foods just the same. Live food also contains iodine and other nutrients that are good for them. Bloodworms have very poor nutritional value. Atleast give him live black worms, ive never had a fish refuse them. If you had enough money to buy a tig than u should have no problem getting him some quality "community" fish to eat.

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strollo22 said:
I agree that feeders may be a good idea as a last resort or perhaps to fatten him up a bit. The part where I don't agree is that it's not about how fast your fish has grown, it's about how healthy he will be eating dirty feeders. Unless you have your own supply of clean feeders, I would avoid them at all costs


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Nothing grows quicker than a small fish being fed 3-6 feeders a day. Its only natural. Very unnatural to deprive a growing predatory fish of live food.

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wednesday13 said:
Just give him feeders whats the problem???? People starving there fish is madness, ive never starved a fish and they all eventually "break" in time. Just be smart and get something quality. Zebra danios, tetras, baby cichlids....your lfs has to have something not "infected". Fish eat other fish in the wild and nothing makes small monsters grow quicker than feeders. I agree with deubiedoo...set up a quarenteen tank for feeders and toss him a few each night to give the poor fish a meal before he dies. My tig took almost 3 years to stop taking live. He finally budged for shrimp around 12" and is now 18". Im not saying u cant break him quicker, continue to try other foods each day while also feeding live. My fish eat feeders and other prepared foods just the same. Live food also contains iodine and other nutrients that are good for them. Bloodworms have very poor nutritional value. Atleast give him live black worms, ive never had a fish refuse them. If you had enough money to buy a tig than u should have no problem getting him some quality "community" fish to eat.

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You must make gobs and gobs more money than me. No way in hell I can afford to feed zebra danios or baby cichlids to my fish. My jur when she was 5" ate 6-10 feeders per feeding twice a day. That's up to 20 danios at $1 a pop every day. If I fed her every day that's up to $140 a week in fish food. Up to $560 a month to feed the fish, assuming I give her the amount of food that she could eat. That's a new truck's payments just to feed the fish! Obviously that's a worst case scenario. However, if we were to do it in an affordable manner, ten feeders a week for $40 a month in food (still vastly more than I spend on pellets), it would STILL essentially be starving the fish. Madness is it?

How is starving a fish madness? Do you honestly believe that in their natural environment things never happen such as floods or droughts that cause the food supply to dwindle and the fish to go hungry? There are times of plenty and times of suffering in the natural world.

Feeding live as a staple until they 'break on their own' is for the wealthy or foolhardy. Yes, I own several fish that cost several hundred dollars each, my aro cost $400, so by your logic I would have 'no problem' being able to afford either a tig or live food. Could it be possible instead that I saved for six months to get enough spare cash to buy the aro? More than likely.

There's nothing wrong with offering feeders as the occasional treat. Doing so will supplement the diet of your predators and won't hurt anything if they're quarantined first. Even I do that.

But to imply that anyone who takes the widely accepted route of feeding their fish a staple diet of prepared foods and by association taking the necessary steps to get them eating prepared food is a bad fishkeeper is HIGHLY offensive to the vast majority of members here and is absolutely uncalled for.
 
Where there's a will there's a way....collecting 500-1000 top minnows a day with a valid fishing liscence ($19) does not add up to $500ish a month to feed a growing fish. I in no way attacked anyone's techniques or methods i simply stated my opinion just like everyone else. Starving a fish you took the responsibility of bringing home to care for is not right in my eyes. Yes I'm aware of times during feast or famine which makes the cost of feeders even cheaper. Why spend $50-$150 on a fish but not spend the $5 a week to feed it. Even without collection of feeders/minnows I can get 100 goldfish or Rosie's for $8 which is very affordable in my eyes and can last up to a month when quarenteened. That's cheaper than the 2 packs of cigs I smoke a day. All chain stores like petsmart run specials on reg. community fish almost daily. You can't tell me spending $10 to feed a fish danios once a week is that out of reach for anyone. Just the same as frozen or pellet food. My point was that I've never had a problem of a fish taking other prepared foods while feeding on live food simotaneously so why not feed them something during the time your trying to break them. The o.p. probably spent more money on other foods to try in the 3 weeks than just buying a couple feeders or whatever live conditioned fish he could find.


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Chicxclub...never said a word about prepared foods being a bad practice nor did I mention or imply anything about being a "bad keeper" . Those are your words. To say I offended our community is just silly. The live food debate is a highly talked about subject for us. Ime I've trained several diff. Species to eat prepared foods by in fact feeding live. Fish recognize their feeder eventually or "feeding method". By feeding live food one fish at a time the fish gets used to your hand or tongs or an object hitting the water and in turn starts "hitting" anything that drops into the water. To train preds like gar on floating pellets I use a pair of alligator clips and hold goldfish at the surface and they learn the routine very quickly and look to the surface for food of any kind. Starving a fish and not attempting to teach it anything isn't helpful imo. Throwing in frozen foods and pellets only to remove them uneaten is more wealthy or foolhardy than buying a few feeders to train your fish.


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The majority of time this has worked for me.....Feed the fish whatever it was eating when you bought it and the gradually try to wheen it onto foods you would like to feed it.

But.....Sometimes you will never get certain fish to eat prepared foods.
 
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