random death

[sbuse]

i have had these rays since the 23rd of dec. 09...yesterday it was playing in the bubbles and general consences being a happy ray...i whent to do a wc today DEAD and this was the better of my 2 that i have...water perams are and have been perfict...no sighn of stress or anything...just the crusing...could it have starved? i have been out of black and blod worms since last friday because the wholesaler didn't send them on my order...i am supost to get some today...i did have a days worth for this whole time and used the last up on sunday(i was being very cosurfitive with them thats why i say i was out on fri)...here are some pic of the dead one after death...do you guys see anything wrong with it cause i can't, but i am new to rays, though i have heard that redness on the underside ment something, but i can't remember as it has a little red on the belly...my other ray is fine, just hunting alot...damn i need those blackworms...

 

[sbuse]

the redness wasn't there when he was crusing the tank...could one have killed the other?

 

[fastcarsnbigfishies]

aww a baby Hard to say. Belly looks pretty red, you sure your water is fine, and what kind of sand/rocks do you have? She is so small that really any little thing could have done her in When you did have food are you sure she was eating?

 

[FishDog]

When rays die, all the blood settles in there belly or bottom of disk. I thought something was funny when my first ray died because it's belly was red. After I had another die it's belly did the same. Random deaths are hard to figure out. Most relate them to poor conditions from the journey of collection to your tank. I had a perfectly healthy ray of almost 8 months die out of the blue. Still have no clue why.

 

[sbuse]

aww a baby Hard to say. Belly looks pretty red, you sure your water is fine, and what kind of sand/rocks do you have? She is so small that really any little thing could have done her in When you did have food are you sure she was eating?

positive, check before the wc ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate barely registering, ph 7.2 steady....i have black sand...it has been fine for my eel and the other one...i have seen the same sand in other ray tanks on here...it was a male the claspers are hard to see in the pic but they are there...the last full meal was fri 4 days ago, was eatting some as of sun. that was when i ran out of the minisule amount of black worms the store gave me as a sorry for not having my order...i think it was eatting some mysis shrimp night before last, there were some for them in there before i went to sleep...

 

[fastcarsnbigfishies]

positive, check before the wc ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate barely registering, ph 7.2 steady....i have black sand...it has been fine for my eel and the other one...i have seen the same sand in other ray tanks on here...it was a male the claspers are hard to see in the pic but they are there...the last full meal was fri 4 days ago, was eating some as of sun. that was when i ran out of the minisule amount of black worms the store gave me as a sorry for not having my order...i think it was eating some mysis shrimp night before last, there were some for them in there before i went to sleep...

ah i didnt see the claspers, he was a tiny guy Well nothing obvious seems to be the culprit. Keep an eye on the other ray, sometimes these things just happen.
was he wild caught or captive bred?

 

[sbuse]

When rays die, all the blood settles in there belly or bottom of disk. I thought something was funny when my first ray died because it's belly was red. After I had another die it's belly did the same. Random deaths are hard to figure out. Most relate them to poor conditions from the journey of collection to your tank. I had a perfectly healthy ray of almost 8 months die out of the blue. Still have no clue why.

this one gained some weight and was doing great so idk

 

[sbuse]

ah i didnt see the claspers, he was a tiny guy Well nothing obvious seems to be the culprit. Keep an eye on the other ray, sometimes these things just happen.
was he wild caught or captive bred?

i think it was wc but i am not positive...the other one is acting normal now..i'll ask the guy when i order my females to go with him...i was used to typing "them" after my females coming in that i typed it then had to erase it to type "him"

 

[fastcarsnbigfishies]

i think it was wc but i am not positive...the other one is acting normal now..

could always do an autopsy to see if he swallowed a hook

 

[sbuse]

could always do an autopsy to see if he swallowed a hook

i already have him in the can outside...i feel alittle f'ed up about taking a knife to my dead pets...so autopsy is out...