Rapps orinos

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Jeff is a standup guy and I still maintain he has the highest quality fish of anyone I've ever dealt with. Ive been in the industry for years and he's always been one of the most communicative vendors I ever dealt with. Medications are always sketchy especially with small sensitive cichla, I know this first hand and I'd never use anything with formalin again. I'm confident my orinos with pull through with a high temp, salt, and water changes.
 
ahhhhhh i just got my 3 orinos in from rapps today and they have ich as well. I guess i shouldve expected it since theyre so small. Im glad theyre swimming together though. ah lets just hope that live worms is good enough for them!
 
i've never purchased anything from jeff rapps, so i have no comment on that.

but i've purchased cichla with ich before.. salt and higher temps does the trick, even for tiny cichla.

honestly.. i'm leary of all chemicals when it comes to my fish, especially my cichla. i prefer to find natural ways to keep them disease free when i can.
 
Morledzep;3138618; said:
i've never purchased anything from jeff rapps, so i have no comment on that.

but i've purchased cichla with ich before.. salt and higher temps does the trick, even for tiny cichla.

honestly.. i'm leary of all chemicals when it comes to my fish, especially my cichla. i prefer to find natural ways to keep them disease free when i can.


nvm. i was worrying for no reason. the baby rinos are eating normally. :naughty:
 
blah mines came in with ich very visible ones to but they are eating except one hope they survive....
 
Wow were my 3 the only ones that did not arrive with ich? Thank God.
Jeff is a good man and every one should understand the situation that he is in since he is the vendor. You buy them, you take the risk and hope for the best. I have a lot of repsect for him.
 
The True Guapote;3138417; said:
Jeff is a standup guy and I still maintain he has the highest quality fish of anyone I've ever dealt with. Ive been in the industry for years and he's always been one of the most communicative vendors I ever dealt with. Medications are always sketchy especially with small sensitive cichla, I know this first hand and I'd never use anything with formalin again. I'm confident my orinos with pull through with a high temp, salt, and water changes.

Agreed. I haven't received my orinos yet but even if they have ich, I would not hesitate to buy from Jeff again. One of the best vendors I've ever dealt with.
 
just so we are clear i did use ridich and i added 1 tspn to the 29 gallon they were in i also used aquarium salt and the temp was at 84 degrees i had turned it up but it hadnt started moving up in temp when they started dyingi keep my occels at 84 all the time i used this same treatment with them and had excellent results and both fish survived i also added stress coat 1 capful
these chemicals were made to treat fish at least thats what they claim i dont think that jeff's reputation should even be disscused we all know hes a great vendor i geuss it looked as though i was attacking him that was not my intention i was simply pist off that i watched my fish arrive and then die a few hours later after being excited all week i think all of you can understand that
 
fish junkie;3139346; said:
just so we are clear i did use ridich and i added 1 tspn to the 29 gallon they were in i also used aquarium salt and the temp was at 84 degrees i had turned it up but it hadnt started moving up in temp when they started dyingi keep my occels at 84 all the time i used this same treatment with them and had excellent results and both fish survived i also added stress coat 1 capful
these chemicals were made to treat fish at least thats what they claim i dont think that jeff's reputation should even be disscused we all know hes a great vendor i geuss it looked as though i was attacking him that was not my intention i was simply pist off that i watched my fish arrive and then die a few hours later after being excited all week i think all of you can understand that

Trust me, I totally understand that. It really does suck losing fish you just got.
 
I sincerely hope everyone's fish are doing better by the hour.

I appreciate all the folks who keep a positive attitude and write posts that are actually helpful to fellow Cichla keepers.

It's disappointing to read a couple folks' posts who've so quickly become antagonists.
No harm has been done to them.
Those few members sound more dramatic than the Cat in the Hat for meowing out loud.
No need to buy into their propagandism by chiming along like a peanut gallery.
That's not what this site is about.
Please think twice about what you type before posting publically.

As I mentioned earlier, I have absolutely no need to sell a fish that has visible ich.
Take a look at the festae posted on my stock list. They were held back a week because they arrived too rough for my preference to ship to any customer. They were delayed in transit and overpacked, so here they still are.


As a precaution, I treated my Cichla stock with Jungle Ick Guard at 50% of recommended dose. This med does not contain formalin or malachite green. I've had good success over the years with using it on sensitive fish like baby Cichla.

They still remain totally uneffected by any signs of ich.
Their appetites are getting completely out of hand!

Here are photos that I snapped this afternoon of the same fish in the same 150 gal tank from which I packed all the orino orders last week.

Adding a little perspective to the orino stock I currently have on hand, the fish pictured below are the largest sized juveniles that my exporter's fisherman collected for me.
I still have well over 1000 pieces of 1"+ sized orinos in my tanks that I prefer not to market yet. These fish are also doing exceedingly well - eating and growing like you would expect of baby Cichla.
Some of you commented on how you thought the 1.5-2" sized guys were small. Imagine a fish less than one 1/2 the length and girth of those guys!
With a metabolism not unlike that of a hummingbird, I choose to keep all these little guys here; continuing to feed the bottomless pit of Cichla masses in those tanks and changing more water than Lake Superior holds!

Those of you who are offering them feeder guppies really don't need to to that. It's so risky to the health of your fish - particularly little Cichla.
They have been eating finely crumbled freeze dried krill, pureed raw shrimp, frozen bloodworms (as you can well see below!), and even sinking crumbles of aquaculture grade fin fish feed that almost all my juvenile cichlids eat daily.

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