ray issues

[doviiman]

unless someone like yourself went and snitched on him

I like....

Besides I'm actually from Louisiana and own two homes there, so they come and go..
Nevertheless, at this point my concern if for the fish.
Not sure how to get the nitrates lower, but I have since cycled the water and add salt the nitrates are around 40 now, and the fungus on the tail is gone, jsut looks like the tip has been nipped. Still not eating yet though.
By the way am I missing something, how ofter are people cycling there water? I have always done a 30% change weekly and fish have been fine, and again the other ray is doing great...
Thanks all for the helpful insight, also...

 

[Younglin]

WATER CHANGES!

 

[creepyoldguy]

No. Rays are very sensitive. If you want a stunted ray then sure, let your nitrates go past 50.

Not knocking, but would like to know your experience w stunting rays w nitrates over 50. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the standard nitrate level for public water is no more than 10ppm, and it's hard to tell with some people's well water. So unless your using 100% ro water and doing 100% wc everyday you're going to have at least 5ppm but more likely in the 20ppm plus range. But more realistically somewhere closer to 40 plus on a normal basis

 

[mshill90]

Not knocking, but would like to know your experience w stunting rays w nitrates over 50. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the standard nitrate level for public water is no more than 10ppm, and it's hard to tell with some people's well water. So unless your using 100% ro water and doing 100% wc everyday you're going to have at least 5ppm but more likely in the 20ppm plus range. But more realistically somewhere closer to 40 plus on a normal basis

x2

Mine are kept in about the 25 range, and I have seen no ill effects.

 

[Younglin]

Not knocking, but would like to know your experience w stunting rays w nitrates over 50. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the standard nitrate level for public water is no more than 10ppm, and it's hard to tell with some people's well water. So unless your using 100% ro water and doing 100% wc everyday you're going to have at least 5ppm but more likely in the 20ppm plus range. But more realistically somewhere closer to 40 plus on a normal basis

I guess I was a little rash. Perhaps they won't be stunted but they are quite sensitive to water conditions and high nitrates can be terrible for them. I never let my nitrates go above 15 ( I do not currently have rays, I just keep all my tanks below 15). Above 20 PPM is to high for me. Even if levels above 20 aren't harmful, lower is always better. Most ray keepers I know keep there Nitrates at 10 PPM max.

 

[Tor-Eriik]

I find that hard to belive. Anyway, are the rays doing better?

 

[creepyoldguy]

I find that hard to belive. Anyway, are the rays doing better?

x2. Just with general laws, I would say most ray keepers have their rays in 20 plus most all the time.' Plus, if you dont keep rays, why wuold you say that nitrates over 50 would stunt them?

 

[Younglin]

why wuold you say that nitrates over 50 would stunt them?

I guess I was a little rash. Perhaps they won't be stunted but they are quite sensitive to water conditions and high nitrates can be terrible for them.

Learn to read.

 

[creepyoldguy]

Learn to read.

Learn about general water parameters and don't post unless you have something informative. You have no exPerience w rays so how would you know that 50ppm is terrible for them?

 

[doviiman]

I find that hard to belive. Anyway, are the rays doing better?

Again, guys thanks for all the useful information, didn;t mean for this to become a combative post, just trying to save the ray.
Though I would say the nitrate was a little misleading, beacuse everywhere I have read its really the nitrites to be concern with more than the nitrates.
Nevertheless ray looks much better but is still not as perky as he use to be and is still not eating.
nitrites -0
nitrate -40
PH - 7.2
May do another 20% WC and add a little more salt....
I guess he still needs a little more time, before he is back pouncing on the worms..