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i read in a magazine a while back that different test kits will measure nitrate in different levels. one test kid might say you have 20 and the other 5, but in reality you have the same level....
 
keepinfish;3871538; said:
i do not have many though... Do you think it could make this big of a difference?? i have only had these plants in this for about 6 months. I have a P tank that i have been expermenting with and it has hang on filters. I have the filters full of plants, roots everywhere.. I have higher nitrates in this tank than i do in my other tanks without plants... Explain that..LOL

Firemedic had some pretty good luck using Pothos. If I remember correctly he was going several weeks if not months between WCs and nitrates never got high. If anyone needs to be explaining stuff it should be you. You're the one with the magic water. I'm in the same boat as most people that I know here on MFK that have a good deal invested in their rays, got sick of doing multiple waterchanges a week and installed a drip system. :)
 
i showed everything thing there is to show with my setup. I would love to have a drip, but not sure about moding my new house :)

I think it could be something different in the water we are not or cannot test for... I see nothing different with my setup than most others, except mine is not pretty..lol
 
keepinfish;3871655; said:
i showed everything thing there is to show with my setup. I would love to have a drip, but not sure about moding my new house :)

I think it could be something different in the water we are not or cannot test for... I see nothing different with my setup than most others, except mine is not pretty..lol

I brought Firemedic's thread back up so you could take a look.

It is proven that Pathos significantly affect Nitratre.

;)

I live in a rental house. There is no "modding" to a drip system. It's no different then hooking up a washer. But that's a whole different arguement. ;) The whole point behind a drip is stable water. Parameters that never change. Regardlesss of how many WCs are done the parameters are fluctuating. This may be irrelevant in many hobbyists situations who are just raising or keeping fish (<- ha ha! pun intended), but for others (like me) that are having trouble getting thier rays to "perform" it's one less thing that could be the reason for that lack of breeding..... And don't even get me started on Motoro vs Marble breeding..... They are very different. :irked: :nilly:

As far as "things" in the water that we can't test for, I'm not buying it. Does the typical FW test kit cover all parameters? Nope. But there shouldn't be anything that is relevant to our hobby that we can't test for. Personally I take my water to a spa business and have them run analysis with thier fancy computer jobby. It tests for things I can't even find fits for. Maybe what we are overlooking has to do with conductivity, KH, TDS, or DO?
 
I am not in you guys class or experience, but I have three rays in a 6'x2' 150 with 2 FX5s packed full
of ehfisubstrate (sintered glass) for filtration. I have never had a reading over 15-20 ppm on my nitrates
and that was right before a WC.
I feed twice a day skipping 1-2 days for fasting and 1 50% water change per week.
I use Aquarium Pharmaceuticals liquid testing kit. Have very hard water coming out of the tap @ 7.8 PH from
the city water supply.
The rays sizes are 1x 10", 2x 7". Maybe it is just because my stock isn't heavy or large.
But I guess I will find out when I add my flowers in the near future.
 
actually for a 150 you have a decent stock... Experience??? i think you are there or more than us...LOL

DB, have any thoughts?? That is pretty low for 50% weekly waterchanges. Shadow, is not from up north where the high nitrates are :)
 
Yup, my thoughts are less food = less Nitrate.

Location is coincidental of our goals with keeping rays.

Also might have something to do with ray measurements. Maybe everyone's idea of a 10inch ray isn't the same.
 
DB junkie;3872042; said:
Yup, my thoughts are less food = less Nitrate.

Location is coincidental of our goals with keeping rays.

Also might have something to do with ray measurements. Maybe everyone's idea of a 10inch ray isn't the same.

She is 10" @ least according to my tape, but maybe the end of the ruler is broke off I
I didnt catch it.:(
 
ShadowStryder;3872151; said:
She is 10" @ least according to my tape, but maybe the end of the ruler is broke off I
I didnt catch it.:(

Didn't mean to offend anyone. I just know sometimes people guesstimate ray size. I'm guilty of it. My pond rays look gigantic, till I through a hippie golf disk in there, then all of a sudden they don't look so big. Hell I have a few rays that I've had for over a year and still aren't the size they were sold to me as. :ROFL:
 
DB junkie;3872202; said:
Didn't mean to offend anyone. I just know sometimes people guesstimate ray size. I'm guilty of it. My pond rays look gigantic, till I through a hippie golf disk in there, then all of a sudden they don't look so big. Hell I have a few rays that I've had for over a year and still aren't the size they were sold to me as. :ROFL:

No , offense taken. Just that I measured all three recently cause my WC marbles
seem to be catching my female CB half marble in size rather quickly and I figure
she is appx 8 months older than the full marbles.
 
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