RED DEVIL Juvs.... Labiatus or Citrinellus???

[macframalama]

well played sir @ tom, you answered a question for me in that speel too, so thnx

 

[Cyberman]

All true and alot depends on how these little fish grow and that will determine what they are or most associated with. At the moment, I see more Labiatus in them due to their body/head shapes and lips... Labiatus have more pointed jaws which are flesher towards the tips. If the lips nip inwards towards the tips its a sign they're citrinellus.

 

[Cyberman]

Gorgeous Devil Tom!!!

What is NLS ??? I remembered I had a very nice Labiatus that was mostly red but had a few white patches... He was raised on Tetra Doramin and lived in green water for the peroid that he morphed... I wonder if that was significant - the pea soup green water could have affected his coloration then.

Unless you bought from a know source you will never know if they are Citrinellus or Labiatus or any other possible mix of Amphilophus for that matter. At that size they are not fully morphed either and the way they look as adults may be nothing like the way they look now.
As far a color goes genetics will play a large part in the final apperance. In the wild the red color is and adaptaion of fish that inhabit deeper reagons of a lake below 25ft red is filtered out so a red fish appears black the barred varities live in the shallow sections where the barred coloration helps camoflage them among the rocks and vegatation. A good diet will bring out the max potential of your fish. I raised my RD on NLS and his color is very intense but again genetics plays a big role in the final outcome.

Anyone saying it's this or that is gussing. That's the answer

 

[TheHolyArachnid]

I've noticed red devils are a lot thinner and not as muscular looking when their juveniles. Midas tend to be thicker and look more muscled.

IMO, you either have a mix or a midas. More midas though.

 

[Cyberman]

What makes you think theres any Midas in these guys? Saying they're hybrids seems a more simplistic cop-out answer to me. Bigger lips (check) thinner bodies (check) = they're more labiatus.... surely

I've noticed red devils are a lot thinner and not as muscular looking when their juveniles. Midas tend to be thicker and look more muscled.

IMO, you either have a mix or a midas. More midas though.

 

[dogofwar]

In addition to sunlight, good care (lots of water changes) and moderate feedings of food with krill (or other red/orange color enhancers) will bring out the colors in your fish.

Matt

 

[RD.]

Labiatus have more pointed jaws which are flesher towards the tips. If the lips nip inwards towards the tips its a sign they're citrinellus. .

What makes you think theres any Midas in these guys? Saying they're hybrids seems a more simplistic cop-out answer to me. Bigger lips (check) thinner bodies (check) = they're more labiatus.... surely

I suggest that you read this.


http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...f-citrinellus-A-potential-case-of-F1-Midevils



With no known provenance all that anyone can really do is categorize them as midevils.

 

[Kivstev]

If you have to ask they're Midevils.

 

[Cyberman]

OooK..... so because no one knows the ancestry of my Devils they're not prepared to say they are either/or.... so they're going for the cop-out answer of calling them MiDevils. Thats ridiculious... You have to judge by the fishes visual appearance.. if you can't do that then you don't know the difference - plain and simple!

 

[RD.]

I suggest you go back & read the link that I posted in my previous comment, as well as the other sticky;

Please read before asking if you have a Midas or Red Devil

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...efore-asking-if-you-have-a-Midas-or-Red-Devil


What's ridiculous, is that for some reason you feel that you can identify the genetics of a fish by simply eye balling it.