red finned longnose

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

were can i get that? lol. ever do any lng collecting in md? (richard or solomon)
wondering if there is any chance of me procureing any with the orange or red or even green coloration and if so were? If u let me know, ill provide as much info as i can for u guys(not that u really need it, lol)

 

[snowy]

Green patterned Longnosed.

 

[snowy]

were can i get that? lol. ever do any lng collecting in md? (richard or solomon)
wondering if there is any chance of me procureing any with the orange or red or even green coloration and if so were? If u let me know, ill provide as much info as i can for u guys(not that u really need it, lol)

same here, exept instead of M.D., what about V.A.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

oh or PA. lol

 

[Madding]

Wow Perun, that green is awesomely vibrant. I love it.

 

[Polypterus]

Wow Perun, that green is awesomely vibrant. I love it.

Yeah and it lasted for about all of about 3 months... The fish even today though is still one of the most brightly colored and contrasting Longnosed I've run across. Beautiful fish. Has little green in it now.. (It does pop up from time to time)

FLG and Snowy your looking at this the wrong way. Even if you can manage to find or obtain a fish from a locality that tends to have a particular coloration trait it does not mean that is what you will get out of it. It is very likely the red will just fade and it is done with. There are many things about coloration expression in gars that are just not understood. Diet, Genetics and environment are key but we do not know just how much of what affects what and how the inter-relationship of all of this plays out. I've spent quite a few years playing with various factors seeing how it effects coloration in these fish..

Afraid to say I think a good 10 years more of work might be needed before this is really understood to a basic level. Fact is wild fish are nothing like their captive comparisons and captive fish make poor comparisons to the wild form. Some things can be directly linked between them but some other things are just not. Coloration is one thing that just does not seem to cross between the two.

 

[iloveoscars702]

From what I understand the red fins are because the fish was just fighting and cause a little trauma to the fins. The red comes the broken blood vessels in the fins.
I guess if you really want your gar to have red fins, just bring him out of the tank, lay him on a table and LIGHTLY tap his fins with a hammer until desired color is reached.

You may want to wait to hear from some of the experts before you start using smart ass little icons, because I have heard this from more than one person.
Also your 2nd pic doesn't show red fins, it shows color from the light and flash.
Good luck in your search for answers about the elusive red finned gar.

whos told you to tap a fish's fin to make it red

 

[snowy]

Yeah and it lasted for about all of about 3 months... The fish even today though is still one of the most brightly colored and contrasting Longnosed I've run across. Beautiful fish. Has little green in it now.. (It does pop up from time to time)

FLG and Snowy your looking at this the wrong way. Even if you can manage to find or obtain a fish from a locality that tends to have a particular coloration trait it does not mean that is what you will get out of it. It is very likely the red will just fade and it is done with. There are many things about coloration expression in gars that are just not understood. Diet, Genetics and environment are key but we do not know just how much of what affects what and how the inter-relationship of all of this plays out. I've spent quite a few years playing with various factors seeing how it effects coloration in these fish..

Afraid to say I think a good 10 years more of work might be needed before this is really understood to a basic level. Fact is wild fish are nothing like their captive comparisons and captive fish make poor comparisons to the wild form. Some things can be directly linked between them but some other things are just not. Coloration is one thing that just does not seem to cross between the two.

Well thaks for crushing my dreams:j/k:But seriously, thanks for the new point of view I will definentaly look at this differently now. But as you said, there are variables, and also as you and E_americanus said, diet can somtiemes bring out these colors in fish with the genetic capability, so you never know(well you might)I might just get a red/orange finned gar some day, and its color might stay. But then again I/it may not...
I appreciate all the feedback

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

Yeah and it lasted for about all of about 3 months... The fish even today though is still one of the most brightly colored and contrasting Longnosed I've run across. Beautiful fish. Has little green in it now.. (It does pop up from time to time)

FLG and Snowy your looking at this the wrong way. Even if you can manage to find or obtain a fish from a locality that tends to have a particular coloration trait it does not mean that is what you will get out of it. It is very likely the red will just fade and it is done with. There are many things about coloration expression in gars that are just not understood. Diet, Genetics and environment are key but we do not know just how much of what affects what and how the inter-relationship of all of this plays out. I've spent quite a few years playing with various factors seeing how it effects coloration in these fish..

Afraid to say I think a good 10 years more of work might be needed before this is really understood to a basic level. Fact is wild fish are nothing like their captive comparisons and captive fish make poor comparisons to the wild form. Some things can be directly linked between them but some other things are just not. Coloration is one thing that just does not seem to cross between the two.

im assuming im flg? since my name does mean florida gar. lol. that works!!

anyways, im not really interested in the colors. Im more interested in collecting a gar of my own. lol. Just figured id ask basicly if u know of any good areas in MD or PA!!

 

[Spatula]

You know what's interesting... I just checked out my baby (well not so baby anymore) Florida Gars and they have green circles on their head. I never really noticed it before, really cool looking. I will try to take some pics and post them.