Actually guys i dont have a payara YET but i really want one. Also anybody with ATF experiance? I want both but idk if the ATF would be all good with my jardini (aggressive as all hell). For sure buy a larger tat then i would buy like a 2-3 inch armatus and grow it up to move in the main tank.. But the plan is to get the biggest tank i can buy (used) with $1000 and build a sump for it. So far a 200 gallon so ya. I had a red tail payara before at like 10 inches and died

, ill put up a pic here in a second of it. Thanks everyone for the help, lets keep this thread goin!
-Dean