ATF with a jardini is a BAD idea. The jar will beat the hell out of the atf and it will grow a lot faster than the ATF. Its almost guaranteed that the jar will kill the ATF unless you start with an ATF that is MUCH larger. Even then, the jar is a brawler that is not to be taken lightly. If by some miracle the ATF manages to last, and this is especially true of the Goliath, it is liable to get tired of the jardini's shenanigans cut the jardini in half. ATF are very able to defend themselves if they so choose, but tend to be more predatory and passive than truly aggressive (with the exception of conspecific aggression).Actually guys i dont have a payara YET but i really want one. Also anybody with ATF experiance? I want both but idk if the ATF would be all good with my jardini (aggressive as all hell). For sure buy a larger tat then i would buy like a 2-3 inch armatus and grow it up to move in the main tank.. But the plan is to get the biggest tank i can buy (used) with $1000 and build a sump for it. So far a 200 gallon so ya. I had a red tail payara before at like 10 inches and died, ill put up a pic here in a second of it. Thanks everyone for the help, lets keep this thread goin!
-Dean