Hey, I thank you for your 2 cents! Ok the red mammon and flowerhorn texas crosses I am very unfamiliar with so I can't elaborate on them. I should have been more specific in the title to only show bp/tex crosses that have went through a fading process and still display a deep red color. But I would like to know if the first one you showed(mammon cross) went through a fading process? Also the last pic shows signs of fading because of the black morphing color on the fins... I'm sure that took years of line breeding and that was still a 1 of a kind fish out of a 100+ grown out. Let get more fish showed from people who know more of their fishes background.
Red texas fading red?
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Hey, I thank you for your 2 cents! Ok the red mammon and flowerhorn texas crosses I am very unfamiliar with so I can't elaborate on them. I should have been more specific in the title to only show bp/tex crosses that have went through a fading process and still display a deep red color. But I would like to know if the first one you showed(mammon cross) went through a fading process? Also the last pic shows signs of fading because of the black morphing color on the fins... I'm sure that took years of line breeding and that was still a 1 of a kind fish out of a 100+ grown out. Let get more fish showed from people who know more of their fishes background.
here's my old one. No special lighting. Just daylight flourescent.
[video=youtube;0pwosaSNehs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=0pwosaSNehs&feature=endscreen[/video]
Thanks for posting him. He is a very nice RT. He looks to be a flowerhorn cross? Also did he go through a fading process?
after that one died, I got this one. Though unfaded, it has deep red in a small area. so yeah they do get the real red but only a percentage of the whole fish.
[video=youtube;O6oPW5RheDA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6oPW5RheDA[/video]
Thank you for posting this guy too! He is very nice as well and seems to be a bp/tex cross? He is similar to the one have that I'm referring to that isn't going to fade but will show the red. What I am really trying to see is if a bp/tex cross fades, can it fade and still keep that deep rich red like the ones that don't fade? Keep the pics and thoughts coming!
yes, they fade to the true red color.
Do you have any pictures of a bp/texas or bp/carpintis fading red? The fish you displayed earlier are not the crosses I was talking about.
animal guys first red texas picture faded. Still has black left over from not completing the fade. Look at the red between pearls. BP x Carpintis or Cyno, doesn't yield a SRT, it produces a regular red texas, unless line bred to draw the red characteristic. And even then, I don't think the deep red is possible from a BP. Sorry must have misread your post earlier.
animal guys first red texas picture faded. Still has black left over from not completing the fade. Look at the red between pearls. BP x Carpintis or Cyno, doesn't yield a SRT, it produces a regular red texas, unless line bred to draw the red characteristic. And even then, I don't think the deep red is possible from a BP. Sorry must have misread your post earlier.
Ok, I labeled the thread title wrong and never said anything about an SRT. Animal guys first fish is from a flowerhorn cross OR a few generations of line breeding bp's. I agree with you and you have "kinda" came to the conclusion I was trying to make. I say kinda because the deep red is possible... It just won't come from one that has faded from the first generation(that is what this thread is for). "I believe" it can also come from some line breeding. I just wanted to see if there are any bp/texas cross or bp/carpintis cross owners that have had a fader turn red from the first generation. I'm not going to say it is impossible, but I have an explanation to why I think it can't happen... But since you beat me to the punch can you explain why you think that?
Hey FHlov sorry for being aggressive toward you. I made this post with hopes that people who are breeding or have owned bp/tex hybrids would chime in. What you said and explained was what I wanted to conclude but I didn't get to lol. I just want to sum this thread up by saying the red from a fading flowerhorn(when used in a rt project) is used to bring out the red and they make it that much more easier to produce red simply because the red is within the fading flowerhorn. But when one uses bp the first generation(for the most part) will fade like their mother. The amph in the bp's genes cause the faders to fade her base color. But the crossing of the bp and texas mixes the colors and that's how you get the small % of red. Then once you have your "red" fish, the line breeding can start. Like I said FHlov you said what I wanted to say but I just wanted to add a little more. With that being said this thread is dead unless someone can show us a bp/tex hybrid that faded from the first generation?
I have two offspring left from by BP x Carpintis mix....they are about 5 months old. I will have to get a pic of them when I get home. Most of what i have seen of the BP X Tex/Caprintis/Cyano mix is orange texas...not really red. I haven't been on here in a while but it is good to see you are still working on your project. Thanks for your insight.
no worries crush, no offense taken. I was just trying to clarify that the bright red is what separates SRTs from RTs. I didn't want to just say flat out that "No" you can't get a red colored Texas from a BP x ??, but I would be very surprised if you could. Everyone that I've seen breed RT's by using a BP are always orange variants or unfaded. I don't think that a fish's natural color can "mix" to produce a color. I believe that the fish inherits either or, but that's not to say that the fish can't possess both variations. Since the regular texas has no red and the bp doesn't either, I just don't see red as a possible outcome. I could be wrong, but who knows.
