Red Texas or Carpintis?

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MN_Rebel said:
If I remember correctly, most red texas were Texas x any "red" cichlids with fader genes such as RedDevil, Midas and Parrots (King Kong, Blood, Rose Queen, Mammon etc).
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One could argue that they made a RT using Carpintis X Vieja Synspillum.. then crossing the offspring of that with a female Blood Parrot... People can choose to work on the head/body shape before working on the color.. You listed a few methods.. and those work on the color. If one could obtain a Carpintis with a Kok, many would want to skip the using of Viejas.. but I find the body shapes to be awkward.


Aquatic Aggression said:
I know what you are saying water and I really liked your old non fader it had a nice red base color. I just don't understand the question. There are many ways of making rt or srt but if the fish doesn't fade to red they shouldn't be called rt. Sell them as carpintis x bp cross or carpintis x kkp or whatever was used.

It just seems pointless somebody asking if a non red fish is a red Texas. There is no way of telling what it really is.
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Many ppl call orange hybrids "Red Texas".. If orange can count as red Texas.. why can't my old fish be considered a SRT.. It had the rich red that most "Red Texas" NEVER get. I think the grouping of orange/non faded Texas hybrids into a category called "Red Texas" makes it easier instead of simply calling them BP X Carpintis simply because it's quite difficult to be sure what is used to make them unless you know the parents lineage. I can look at fish and see it has Blood Parrot in it, another person can see Vieja Synspillum. Understand what I'm saying? Calling them RT is easier than just saying X crossed with Y.
 
I would feel comfortable that they use Red Texas as name instead of Green Texas for the purists' sakes. Also it take a while for most faders to fading their baby colors.
 
^Looks like it has a Synspillum in there.
 
I still get you water I guess my beef is with petsmart selling hybrids because who knows what they are. If anyone wants some of my carpintis x kkp and they are not red I will be calling them exactly what they are carpintis x kkp hybrids.

The fish above looks straight up syn and that's what gets me. It's a hybrid look at the fins but its not rt. Not an rt at all.
 
You know Red Texas come in different grades, as you have low quality ones and you have high quality ones. Even nonfaders existed. Let's just called them Petsmart red texas.

Carpintis x KKP hybrid is what it makes Red Texas.
 
I am aware of that lol. But not all fade or have a red or Orange base. I do understand that many fade at a larger size but to me calling the non red products of this cross what they actually are feels a little better than telling people that all fry from this cross are "red Texas". Know what I'm saying?
 
Well I just dont think that you should be work up over Petsmart selling Texas hybrid as Red Texas even if its not red fish. After all it's just Petsmart Red Texas and Petsmart Flowerhorn, mutts with poor quality traits...much like Walmart parrots which don't looks like other blood parrots I used to see.
 
First of all, I have to praise the professional discussion here, keep the good work going MFKers.

I like the term Pesmart RT, but with some sort of respect, if you look around this hoby, we don't see that many breeders successfully breed too many of these close to 100% RT, how much hard work you think it will take to make up the quality of Petsmart RT? Even with most of them are low quality, but that happens to any batch of breed, they have good percentage of low qualities babies. If we have to pick on some one, that has to be the low educated Petsmart employees whom lives on paychecks. I think it will be history making if the Pesmart breeder shows up on MFK to tell about his/her RT breeing experience.
 
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