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well hahahahahaha if it isnt mr compton. actually i have no pics of a 10" dragon wrasse in a tank. first you went from a 5 inch fish to a 10 inch fish. i could care less what you wanna believe bro they are very active and always on the hunt. way more aggressive than a bird wrasse and they grow fairly quickly if you accquire a healthy specimen. if there are no internal parasites and it is kept in near perfect water quality in a 180 it will grow at a very decent rate. apparently you are getting second rate fish of a lesser quality. i live right here in so cal and see perfectly healthy dragon wrasses come in. i would buy the wrasse a little larger than the lion which is common sense if you know what lions can fit in their mouths. spare me your talk about 5" in a 180 and 10" in a 300. how many have you kept on your own and raised. amd if you have to watch out for rocks and coral because of them they must be over 5" and fairly hefty. they arent diggers they are movers. thats why there common name other than dragon wrasse is rock mover wrasse. juvies are dragon and the adults are rock movers. so tell us again about your dads fish keeping for 40 yrs and yours for 20 and how the bird wrasse is better. blah blah blah. you are only one person man just because you have had one experience with one fish doesnt mean ****. all fish are different and you just need to do homework on your fish or you need to keep your ytanks healthier and feed your fish better so they grow to full adult size.
 
Where do you get off Central Mayem, How about you do some research. Do the math. A dragon wrasse will take up to 3 or 4 years to reach 10'' keep in mind the tank is large enough. If a Voliton is kept in the same large Aquarium and fed right it should reach up to 10 inches in a year and a half. Now I think even you can figure those numbers. and your 10'' dragon wrasse you had you must of netted him right out of the ocean and then he must of lived for about 6 months. I will agree with you on one part that there are different qualities of fish. I have a 18'' Japenese koi imported that I have had for about 12 years now. and I also had a couple of assorted koi that I got from petsmart 7 years ago. They are now dead. not from disease not from anything but because of quality of the fish. and there I agree centralMayhem. and by the way a greenbird at 6 months is 6'' which is solid fact and are very preditory and do much more than just rearange your tank and make it look like crap. If you have raised a dragon that was 10'' as fast as you say then give me some of what ever your feeding it.
 
i never said i had them myself. where didyou see that. i said i have seen. i service quite a few tanks around the san diego area. if your talking all this and then you are gonna tell me that a bird wrasse is still ok then piss off dude. you are a waste of my trip towards carpal tunnel syndrome. i will no longer post to your know it all ass. you tried this same **** with miles. whom though i have argued with him on many a thing is still way more knowledgeable than yourself. go work at PETSMART or something. a 180 is more than plenty for a fish to reach 10" dude. and we are talking about stocking a 180 i assume. not with juvenile fish. dragon wrasse juvies are harder to keep than sub adults and will no doubt probably never reach their full size before you get rid of them. start with a 6" rock mover and a 3" lion and about a 4" sailfin and let them grow and watch how much you can control your lions growth. they are slow feeders and you should be able to feed your wrasse and tang more often. we are not talking about power feeding your lions dude. mr compton i tried to like you but sorry bro IM OUT!! MFE
 
CentralMayhem said:
i never said i had them myself. where didyou see that. i said i have seen. i service quite a few tanks around the san diego area. if your talking all this and then you are gonna tell me that a bird wrasse is still ok then piss off dude. you are a waste of my trip towards carpal tunnel syndrome. i will no longer post to your know it all ass. you tried this same **** with miles. whom though i have argued with him on many a thing is still way more knowledgeable than yourself. go work at PETSMART or something. a 180 is more than plenty for a fish to reach 10" dude. and we are talking about stocking a 180 i assume. not with juvenile fish. dragon wrasse juvies are harder to keep than sub adults and will no doubt probably never reach their full size before you get rid of them. start with a 6" rock mover and a 3" lion and about a 4" sailfin and let them grow and watch how much you can control your lions growth. they are slow feeders and you should be able to feed your wrasse and tang more often. we are not talking about power feeding your lions dude. mr compton i tried to like you but sorry bro IM OUT!! MFE

Youve never owned a rockmover wrasse yet you claim to know everything about them hmmmm..................... There is a difference between owning and seeing bro.:duh:
 
your a waste of my time mr compton. see ya!!!!!I mean i love to argue, but only with someone who knows what they are talking about. kick rocks and go back to the little place in your head where you feel most comfortable pulling this nonsense from.
 
and i just read this whole thread, YOU ARE A JOKE!!!! where did any of your info come from. you tried to argue with miles about triggers. now with me about the wrasses. you say wrasses, tangs and large angels. such a broad spectrum bro. tangs and LARGE angels yeah sure. but do you know how many wrasse are unsuitable for lions. and how many triggers will kill your lions, and just HOW BIG those LARGE ANGELS get. we are talking a 180 and now youre talking putting a LARGE angel and a LARGE lionfish and a LARGE tang all into this 6ft tank. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm let me see....naw, nevermind im not wasting my time on you again. dont bother posting a reply, i will no longer answer anything you post in MFK. DONE!!!!!
 
well i do apologize for creating such a ruckus in here... like i said i still have a lot of time to think about these things, i don't even have a tank yet!!! I am pretty set about a sailfin and a volitan now does anyone agree on a dragon (or whatelse is a good candidate that is similar) Mr. Compton i take everything in as open-minded as possible and i appreciate all the input you are giving me however i don't like the way the greenbird looks it just looks goofy to me, sorry.... if i need to go with a bigger tank than by all means let me know... like i said before everything revolves around a volitan so i want the best possible for that application, the volitan is to be my centerpiece not the only fish i have, please let me know an optimal size if i were to have a volitan and maybe three other compatible fish, thanks again and also how would you secure live rock???
 
I have not kept many salt fish and the ones I did were locals in unheated tanks, that said I do love the volitans, I would like to keep, and some day will, a 150g sw fish only tank with a volitans lion, a panther grouper, and hopefully a snowflake eel. I have a picture in my minds I of these three against a black background over pale gravel in a ttank with a thicket of bleached staghorn coral.
 
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