Reproduction in C. kelberi

[X-Tank]

You talking about the top Cichla? If so, they are farmed monocs IMHO. Hence the label "BREED" next to them

They breed in such as small enclosed tank... ?? So.. what's the point to have huge tank for breeding???

It looks like once the parents are done with spawning.. they are gone and the rest is taking care of by the breeder.

pH 7 and Temp 28 C = 84 F.

It also mentioned about adding filter media ring and small coral to keep pH from going low.

 

[Marius]

a totally different type of fish but with my experience with breeding and keeping fancy bettas ive noticed that ive gotten better results from my "tea" water where i would have almond leaves sit in aged water that ive boiled
the spawn was both larger (in number) and grew faster and with better colors

Might be a different specie, but the water requirements in the end are pretty much similar: soft, acidic water. Not to mention that the anti-fungal properties of the leaves are very well recognized, and the degrading leaves provide "infusoria" for the newly hatched fry.

Another thing I am constantly finding myself to bring up is the topic of aged water. A lot of people are just doing water changes from the tap while adding dechlorinators (been there, done that, still doing it). I'd dare say that aged water would yields the best results in regards to color, stress relief and disease control. My "dream" fish room should have a large bin, or bins, depending on the different types of fish that I keep, that would age the water for the water changes. I'm doing this for the ray and Tigrinus tanks, aged water for 2-3 days, then 50-80% water changes. Got a pretty good growth rate for the Tigs, 8" in 4 months.

 

[Marius]

They breed in such as enclosed tank... ?? So.. what's the point to have huge tank for breeding???

It looks like once the parents are done with spawning.. they are gone and the rest is taking care of by the breeder.

pH 7 and Temp 28 C = 84 F.

It also mentioned about adding filter media ring and small coral to keep pH from going low.

Large tanks for wild caughts, as in Old World Cichlids' case, once you pass the first generation tank bred, you're good to go, the fish get accustomed more and more to the tank conditions, easier, faster, and once they reach sexual maturity

...same with black rays, remember the hassle breeders had with the wild caught Itaitubas? Once the pups got to maturity though, tank bred pups had no problems playing rabbit games.

I think the large/huge tank enclosures mostly apply to wild caught stock, and thus making them feel as comfortable as possible and to entice them to spawn faster.

 

[X-Tank]

How about these wild 2" pbass we got recently?
Do you think we may have chance to breed them in a relatively smaller thank??
I am excited.

Note: 2 of the breeding tanks are next to window. ?? not sure if nature light induce spawning behavior.

 

[Marius]

How about these wild 2" pbass we got recently?
Do you think we may have chance to breed them in a relatively smaller thank??
I am excited.

Note: 2 of the breeding tanks are next to window. ?? not sure if nature light induce spawning behavior.

Definitely easier than large wild caught adults. Sunlight is not a factor, IMO, water quality, sexually mature, and decent enough space for them they'll do the deed.

Oh yes, conditioning the adults for spawning is another story altogether, but on that we can chat as well.

 

[channarox]

When I said streams, I actually meant small rivers. Do you have large enough streams or rivers connecting to your reservoirs to provide cover for the Giant Snakehead? Otherwise this species would seek security in open water. You can't be expecting a 2 feet fish seeking cover in a little stream don't you?

When you say native prey species endangered by Cichla, what are they? I am curious if you have any in that part of the world, because from what I know Southeast Asia is largely made up of cyprinidae species. This group did badly in lucustrine enviroment because they need streams and rivers to spawn. Looking at Google Earth Singapore seems to be void of good sized streams and rivers!

In any case you shouldn't lose sleep over the decreasing population of Giant Snakehead, as they were introduced to Malaysia and Singapore from Thailand. And the reservoirs, like I said, were not supposed to be there anyway, so are the fish.

Hope this cheers you up

we actually have small rivers to provide cover for the giant snakeheads.
theyre just usually found in the resevoirs,and finding them is already a rarity.
i was just giving it as an example because brian was talking about the wolf fish,a large aggressive predator much like the snakehead.
there are many other species endangered by the introduction of not just cichla,but many other species to our waters.

 

[channarox]

It's great to see that besides the pictures and the muscle flexing ...there's a lot of information here. Where's DM by the way, life caught up to him or something?

On another note, through this "stupid fish hobby of yours" (quoting my wife) I've made some really good friendships , who knew, eh?!?

as have i.
DM will be back.
its just a matter of time...same as brian.

 

[channarox]

How about these wild 2" pbass we got recently?
Do you think we may have chance to breed them in a relatively smaller thank??
I am excited.

Note: 2 of the breeding tanks are next to window. ?? not sure if nature light induce spawning behavior.

maybe the japs just filed the water with chemicals that made the fish horny...same thing they do to breed any other fish they do...

 

[pwmin]

What database are you accessing? I can't find much on Cichla w/ my access.

 

[Rio Negro Lover]

we actually have small rivers to provide cover for the giant snakeheads.
theyre just usually found in the resevoirs,and finding them is already a rarity.
i was just giving it as an example because brian was talking about the wolf fish,a large aggressive predator much like the snakehead.
there are many other species endangered by the introduction of not just cichla,but many other species to our waters.

I believe you are a sentimental person, this explains your losing sleep for one introduced species (Giant Snakehead) but not the other (cichla). You haven't tell me which native species of Singapore were threatened by cichla. Perhaps you have see my point