Reptiles banned

[Vicious_Fish]

tortises are legal in nh but illegal in vermont

My bad, I knew it was one or the other. But yeah, what a stupid law.

 

[coura]

Also politics dont give a dam on what we think. And zoos and aquariums, dont make me start on them. In a ideal world , we private keeprs and puplic aquariums and zoos could have a beautifull relation ship, exchanjing info , tips and even animals. But insted they say that we are responsable for the declining of wild pops,that we make ilegal trading (in ther small mind private captive breding is "ilegal trading"), that the animals we keep are not suitable for private ownerchip,etc, when they make way bigger mistakes. Also they tend to be really arrogant I tell you duds MFK this hobby is the reason why crested geckos, pan box turtles, Chinese coin box turtles and white cloud minows, are still found in the face of the earth, and is the reason why so many species which are really endangered in the wild,like radiatade tortoises,Fidji iguanas and rinoceros iguanas, will not go extinct if there last wild populations desappear for what ever reason. Let´s face it today are probably more leopard geckos, bearded dragons, green iguanas,etc, than ever before. This hobby is really whort fithing for

 

[green_fox]

what a great point coura!!!

 

[SimonL]

Don't quote me on this, but I think I've heard that you can't keep geckos in some cities in Canada.

Naw, they took geckos off the list in Oakville lol. But all boas and pythons are still banned. We can still have elaphids (cobras, mambas, taipan, etc) though!

 

[Death Pony]

It's illegal to keep tarantulas where i live, just in my county. It's all because of stupid people too. I live in an area filled with rednecks and trailer trash, and 95% of them are irresponsible pet owners.

 

[Vicious_Fish]

Naw, they took geckos off the list in Oakville lol. But all boas and pythons are still banned. We can still have elaphids (cobras, mambas, taipan, etc) though!

"The most dangerous animal known to man: the gecko!"

If it were true, it would make a great B movie from the 1950's.

 

[Kioka]

Also politics dont give a dam on what we think. And zoos and aquariums, dont make me start on them. In a ideal world , we private keeprs and puplic aquariums and zoos could have a beautifull relation ship, exchanjing info , tips and even animals. But insted they say that we are responsable for the declining of wild pops,that we make ilegal trading (in ther small mind private captive breding is "ilegal trading"), that the animals we keep are not suitable for private ownerchip,etc, when they make way bigger mistakes. Also they tend to be really arrogant I tell you duds MFK this hobby is the reason why crested geckos, pan box turtles, Chinese coin box turtles and white cloud minows, are still found in the face of the earth, and is the reason why so many species which are really endangered in the wild,like radiatade tortoises,Fidji iguanas and rinoceros iguanas, will not go extinct if there last wild populations desappear for what ever reason. Let´s face it today are probably more leopard geckos, bearded dragons, green iguanas,etc, than ever before. This hobby is really whort fithing for

Um... I find that to be a load of bulk, especially when people are hybridizing animals now. Also, remember, there will come a time when a trend die and the animal disappear from the hobby altogether. Remember when a few "Extinct in Wild" fish disappeared from the aquaria hobby? Yeah.

In no way, the hobby can be viewed as conservation. Lot of people DO poach for those reasons, especially with turtles, and also what the hobby did end up conserving (ie. Pituophis ruthveni) are ruined by greedy hobbyists who can't find a mate for theirs so they create bloody hybrids that exist throughout everyone's collection which cannot be purged unless every single one in captivity is killed, and we tapped into the wild population again.

 

[coura]

"The most dangerous animal known to man: the gecko!"

If it were true, it would make a great B movie from the 1950's.

good one

 

[coura]

Um... I find that to be a load of bulk, especially when people are hybridizing animals now. Also, remember, there will come a time when a trend die and the animal disappear from the hobby altogether. Remember when a few "Extinct in Wild" fish disappeared from the aquaria hobby? Yeah.

In no way, the hobby can be viewed as conservation. Lot of people DO poach for those reasons, especially with turtles, and also what the hobby did end up conserving (ie. Pituophis ruthveni) are ruined by greedy hobbyists who can't find a mate for theirs so they create bloody hybrids that exist throughout everyone's collection which cannot be purged unless every single one in captivity is killed, and we tapped into the wild population again.

Also true,it unfornatly happens. Just a while time ago, I herd that the last captive population of a certain lifebearing fish, probably goodeid,cant remenber the name,has died. But there are many sucess histories too. Also remenbar that many responsebal hobbist do not create hibrids. I find the hibidization fenomenon more caracteristic of the Nort American herpculture than the European. For example there not many people here that would cross a corn with a king, for example. A while ago in a reptile show(that is the only decent show I have acess here) I meet a hobbist that has a group of really nice wild fenothip leopard geckos. That was the moment I realise what is the color of a wild leopard gecko. They really deserve that name. All the animals I saw before that I called normals ,are really higt yellow leopards. It was nice to see that some people still worry about the purity of ther animals.

 

[coura]

Also remenbar that in some species we can no longer relly in wild caut stock , so we must be well sucessed in aour breding and husbandry atempts. This is the case whit Australian species, monkey taill skinks, Calumma parsoni(I think),New Zeland species,etc