Responsible Snakehead Keepers Act
- Thread starter Darth Scohin
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all this seems too much, just require channa to have a id tag embeded into them. if some one catches your channa(registered to you) in the wild be ready for rediculous fine.
offer local fishers 5 dollars per body of channa they bring to park authorities. hence all fish recovered will be scanned
offer local fishers 5 dollars per body of channa they bring to park authorities. hence all fish recovered will be scanned
I don't see anything good coming of this, but then again I'm not your congressman.
American politics over the last few decades have been driven by knee jerk fear reactions as much as the rational need to protect and manage our nation. There has been so much fear mongering done on the subject already I can't imagine any bill is even going to be considered on the house floor.
Kudos for trying though.
American politics over the last few decades have been driven by knee jerk fear reactions as much as the rational need to protect and manage our nation. There has been so much fear mongering done on the subject already I can't imagine any bill is even going to be considered on the house floor.
Kudos for trying though.
sostoudt;3521417; said:
That is an exellent idea I think I would add that and why a Criminal record because one that is not going to be like "Dude I totally got to show you this rad killer fish I got"....Okay what about a $150 permit fee...That's a big decrease but....Also, It is illegal to tie a giraffe to a telephone pole in Oregon....What kind of law is that?
I don't like to doublepost, but if this bill were to see consideration in front of lawmakers it'd have more weight if instead of a onetime 1000 dollars down per fish an annual assessment be paid per fish upon inspection by a government official, presumably the duty would fall to local fish and wildlife departments. Bearing in mind that our elected officials get their kicks buying million dollar toilet seats like candy, I wouldn't even think of suggesting an ammount less than $100, per fish per annual assessment, in all reality though, the assessment would probably need to be much higher to warrant consideration.
What we really need to remember in all this is that there's a good reason we can't have these fish. If they weren't a very real ecological threat this wouldn't be an issue, but a pair of snakeheads released into an american ecosystem by one moron have the potential to do more damage to that ecosystem than that same moron can do with all the guns he can carry. You need to consider that wild snakeheads could totally wipe out southern populations of literally every fish, amphibian, and waterfowl in the range they infest, leaving many species prone to extinction because somebody wanted a big badass fish in their tank at home.
I'm not accusing anyone here of releasing fish, but I am suggesting that before anyone take steps to put dangerous things closer to the hands of stupid people, you think about the potential blowback and figure out if you'd be ok with that blood on your hands. Jailtime and fines don't bring populations back from extinction. I generally shy away from encouraging big brother from getting bigger, but this time they just might be right not letting us have these fish.
What we really need to remember in all this is that there's a good reason we can't have these fish. If they weren't a very real ecological threat this wouldn't be an issue, but a pair of snakeheads released into an american ecosystem by one moron have the potential to do more damage to that ecosystem than that same moron can do with all the guns he can carry. You need to consider that wild snakeheads could totally wipe out southern populations of literally every fish, amphibian, and waterfowl in the range they infest, leaving many species prone to extinction because somebody wanted a big badass fish in their tank at home.
I'm not accusing anyone here of releasing fish, but I am suggesting that before anyone take steps to put dangerous things closer to the hands of stupid people, you think about the potential blowback and figure out if you'd be ok with that blood on your hands. Jailtime and fines don't bring populations back from extinction. I generally shy away from encouraging big brother from getting bigger, but this time they just might be right not letting us have these fish.
sostoudt;3521495; said:
when snakehead lobbyists get a budget as big as what the 2nd amendment lobbyists throw around, feel free to reissue that argument, I'd actually pay to see well funded snakehead nerds duke it out with the NRA.
But really, I think the difference is people don't realize the damage they can do by releasing fish, gun violence is actually a bad parallel since murderers are generally aware they're hurting other people when they're shooting at them, the gun becomes secondary to the murderer; but a pair of channa released because their keeper couldn't find a new home for them and couldn't get up the nerve to euthanize them are capable of decimating an entire ecosystem without anyone pulling a trigger every time they hurt something. People aren't going to be getting hit by spontaneously manifesting bullets whizzing through the air years after the Columbine and VT shootings, but it only takes one pair of spawning channa to cause a problem that can take years to fix, assuming the infestation is recognized in time before they render populations extinct.
I understand where you're going with this, I really do. I'd LOVE to keep a C. Micropeltes myself. But I understand the genus has the potential to cause serious and permanent problems in our real environment, the one that literally makes the water we drink and the air we breathe. I can accept the fact that they're just too dangerous to be made available to the idiots who let them out the first time, and I've learned enough about people to know that requireing permits doesn't make responsible people, it makes people with permits.
Frankly though, I'd be a lot happier to get behind legislation to permit aquarists to own ethically raised captive bred and microchipped Scleropages formosus, if you want to pursue a political cause in the aquarist community, I think you'll find a lot more support from exporters, environmentalists, and hobbyists with that.
In the Bill it allows you only ONE Snakehead of the same Species NEVER TWO that is to prevent them from breeding....I thank you very much for your concerns and challenging this as the more challenge given the more ways we can figure to prevent that from happening....(if only one could spay/nueter fish LOL
Do I see this in the future....Yes, do I see this in the next 5 or 10 years maybe maybe not....
Do I see this in the future....Yes, do I see this in the next 5 or 10 years maybe maybe not....
<== Laughs... Looks over at his only remaining tank and grins, then reaches for the gun on his hip that is more often then not there that he doesnt even feel it any more... 
