Salt people i need your help

[PEVINE11]

Once you put your salt mix in it, the pH will not be 7.2 any more.



Pevine I am going to try to politely tell you how arrogant you sound. You are saying your way is the only way. I am sorry but its not.

If you are calling into question my ability to understand water chemistry, you are seriously calling out the wrong person. I am going to guess that my understanding of water chemistry is far better than what I need to know to maintain salt water aquaria.

Salt water is by its very nature very high in TDS, why would it be essential to remove them all before adding them back in?

I am not sure what measure of success you seek to find? I also don't think this is a place for bragging about who can keep better tanks than whom. If you think Google is the best place to do research, you have said all you need to about your understanding.

Please keep in mind that there is more than one way to skin a cat. Also keep in mind that sometimes your youth and arrogance will cause the experts, whose advice you may need some day, to walk away from you and tell you to figure it out yourself.

7.2 was an example

my way is not the only way, but im trying to say i would not recomend useing tap water. nor i would go and tell someone looking to get into keeping saltwater to use tap and act as its the best to usebecause its deffently not.

i was not reffering to google as the best search tool either. tho it will take you to good sites

Please keep in mind that there is more than one way to skin a cat. Also keep in mind that sometimes your youth and arrogance will cause the experts, whose advice you may need some day, to walk away from you and tell you to figure it out yourself

so your a proffsional?
i can get help if needed. this site if filled of people who are always right apperntly. no matter which section i post i get someone like you.

"oh ive kept for 15 years, i know everything about water chemestrty etc."
sorry but thats wack
no one knows everything stop acting it

Salt water is by its very nature very high in TDS, why would it be essential to remove them all before adding them back in?

not with whats in tap or well water

I am not sure what measure of success you seek to find? I also don't think this is a place for bragging about who can keep better tanks than whom. If you think Google is the best place to do research, you have said all you need to about your understanding.

im not saying my tank is better then yours, or yours is better then anyone else's, as for measure os success, health of tank, water quality, etc. i dont know whos bragging, im not but you should be seeing you've been keeping for 15+ years and apperntly know everything. or so you make it seem




also i dont know everything, and my way is not the only way. look Up RO/DI and see if its for you. i highly recomend an rodi unit. tho apperntly some people are so set in their way with using tap water which i will never do


Excuse the spelling here, im an electrican not a book writter

 

[Heathd]

To studd muffin

Looks like the thread has diverged into something completely different. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me, Fleshy, Kevin888. We would all be more then happy to help you.

Or start another thread, as this one has gone to the dogs apparently, and I think I may be a little guilty for contributing to it. Sorry...

 

[PEVINE11]

To studd muffin

Looks like the thread has diverged into something completely different. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me, Fleshy, Kevin888. We would all be more then happy to help you.

Or start another thread, as this one has gone to the dogs apparently, and I think I may be a little guilty for contributing to it. Sorry...

agreed
i was just trying to help....tho apperntly people like to flame what i do

 

[FLESHY]

I use well water for my reef...and the proof is in the pudding. I have no problems with any algae (pevine has said himself he is dealing with a cyano outbreak).

The DISADVANTAGES to using RODI are simple...it has 0 TDS. This means your buffering capacity is non-existant, and you have to use chemicals to make your water aquaria suitable.

Chloramines dissapate out of h2o in 24hrs usually...so that is also the end of that discussion.

Test your water. Find out what you need to do. Dont go telling people to do things to their water when you dont know anything about it ha ha

 

[Heathd]

I use well water for my reef...and the proof is in the pudding. I have no problems with any algae (pevine has said himself he is dealing with a cyano outbreak).

The DISADVANTAGES to using RODI are simple...it has 0 TDS. This means your buffering capacity is non-existant, and you have to use chemicals to make your water aquaria suitable.

Chloramines dissapate out of h2o in 24hrs usually...so that is also the end of that discussion.

Test your water. Find out what you need to do. Dont go telling people to do things to their water when you dont know anything about it ha ha

lol....

^^love this guy

 

[kdrun76]

I am going to bow out, I have no need to defend my self.

Pevine, Any credentials I may or may not have are irrelevant. You are giving out advise that is based on your experiences and claiming that its vastly superior to what others do. I am not sure there is a good method to measure one method against the other. So rather than tell others that their tried and true method is no good, perhaps instead you could simply advocate for what works for you.

 

[Ashlee]

I am going to bow out, I have no need to defend my self.

Pevine, Any credentials I may or may not have are irrelevant. You are giving out advise that is based on your experiences and claiming that its vastly superior to what others do. I am not sure there is a good method to measure one method against the other. So rather than tell others that their tried and true method is no good, perhaps instead you could simply advocate for what works for you.

Long story short, this person knows more than 99.5% of people on mfk in the aspect of water, and fish in general.

Quick things...

Crushed coral can cause nitrates to become more easily trapped under the bed. Crushed coral is great to toss in the sump to buffer ph and keep it stable. While buffer is terrible and only fixes the symptoms and not the source. Kind of like doctors with pills these days.... I will never use crushed coral again after the results i have with sand, and it does cause more nitrates, if not taken care of properly. Sand looks better and is easier to take care of. Also a DSB is a great thing to take advantage of if your going sand. Its

lazy people that cause nitrates, not crushed coral.

PH buffer is not good

I use tap water for all my tanks. I don't use ro for my reef, FOWLR, or freshwater tanks. The ph is set by the salt, and organic compounds that will be mixed in. So like KD said, why would you take it out only to put it back in? Some people need to use RO water cause their city water sucks. That is totally up to you, but it will never "kill" or harm your fish precautions are taken.

Lastly i suggest a reef should be at least 30 gallons plus. Things in reef tanks can sway and in little tanks even the smallest things can cause damage on a much larger scale compared to large tanks.

Last thing is I don't recommend a skimmer for a reef ever! They can rob foods from corals that need feedings. Set up an algae turf scrubber, they are cheap and the best filtration you could ever ask for. Minimal cleaning, and awesome water quality.

There are many ways to skin a cat. I have my own way to skin a cat, not some sales person from a lfs's opinion. Pevine i thing that relates to your opinion.

Squabble over.

 

[PEVINE11]

I use well water for my reef...and the proof is in the pudding. I have no problems with any algae (pevine has said himself he is dealing with a cyano outbreak).

The DISADVANTAGES to using RODI are simple...it has 0 TDS. This means your buffering capacity is non-existant, and you have to use chemicals to make your water aquaria suitable.

Chloramines dissapate out of h2o in 24hrs usually...so that is also the end of that discussion.

Test your water. Find out what you need to do. Dont go telling people to do things to their water when you dont know anything about it ha ha

well studd muffin apperntly they need to keep going





do you know why i have cyano? probly not as i never said. i was buying RODI water from the pet store

(go head assume its the rodi water)

But in reality the water had a TDS of 61. (from the local petstore)
ive recently startedto use RO/DI from my own ststem with 0 TDS and the cyano is already fading. so get off that, dont assume just because i have cyano its becuse i use RO/di when reality its because i was pretty much using tap water.


stop being cheap and buy an RO/DI system
then tell me what you think

 

[Heathd]

well studd muffin apperntly they need to keep going





do you know why i have cyano? probly not as i never said. i was buying RODI water from the pet store

(go head assume its the rodi water)

But in reality the water had a TDS of 61. (from the local petstore)
ive recently startedto use RO/DI from my own ststem with 0 TDS and the cyano is already fading. so get off that, dont assume just because i have cyano its becuse i use RO/di when reality its because i was pretty much using tap water.


stop being cheap and buy an RO/DI system
then tell me what you think

LOL....

I have have had great success

using tap water.

 

[PEVINE11]

look at it this way
%100 pure water evaporates out of our tanks every day. We add new water to top off and relplace the evaporation. If there are any contaminants in that top off water, it will continually be added and concentrated as %100 pure water evaporates off and new top off water WITH whatever contaminants is added. Do that math on that, excesses of things we do not want in our water inevitable WILL accumulate in the tank if they are present in our top off/make up water.