Secret for crystal clear water

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Run a UV sterilizer, it will kill all the free floating bacteria. Check the Jebao uv thread for before and after pics of my tank. Mine was cloudy from my fish turning up the substrate causing a bloom.
 
My secret to clear water was in the filtration and water changes. I used DR Tims one and only to start the tank and the only chemical that ever went in the water from then on was prime. Ive stirred the **** out of my substrate vacuuming it when real dirty and the tank looked terrible. Within an couple hours the tank was crystal clear again thanks to filtration.

Its like MAGIC!
 
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No matter how the OP worded his comments, there is always room for improvement in this hobby, including water clarity. And plenty of people, myself included have started threads on various subjects, and various products, including probiotics - where not a single penny has been made.

Perhaps he is indeed selling these products, but that doesn't negate the facts that some folks decided to challenge, with responses such as the previous one just posted. No sheet filtration and water changes help water clarity, but it doesn't have to just end with that. Commercial aquaculture facilities that have millions of dollars invested in their facilities and their stock utilize similar products to assist in the water and filtration quality of their systems.
 
No matter how the OP worded his comments, there is always room for improvement in this hobby, including water clarity. And plenty of people, myself included have started threads on various subjects, and various products, including probiotics - where not a single penny has been made.

Perhaps he is indeed selling these products, but that doesn't negate the facts that some folks decided to challenge, with responses such as the previous one just posted. No sheet filtration and water changes help water clarity, but it doesn't have to just end with that. Commercial aquaculture facilities that have millions of dollars invested in their facilities and their stock utilize similar products to assist in the water and filtration quality of their systems.

I dont think we were really challenging him just shooting ideas around. Gotta admit he did come off sounding like he was selling a product instead of sharing info l. Either way its cool how ever he chooses to use this or other products.

Didnt know the product was a probiotic shame on me but had he mentioned all the other benefits along with the water clarity it probably would have made more sense to me
 
No matter how the OP worded his comments, there is always room for improvement in this hobby, including water clarity. And plenty of people, myself included have started threads on various subjects, and various products, including probiotics - where not a single penny has been made.

Perhaps he is indeed selling these products, but that doesn't negate the facts that some folks decided to challenge, with responses such as the previous one just posted. No sheet filtration and water changes help water clarity, but it doesn't have to just end with that. Commercial aquaculture facilities that have millions of dollars invested in their facilities and their stock utilize similar products to assist in the water and filtration quality of their systems.
No matter how the OP worded his comments, there is always room for improvement in this hobby, including water clarity. And plenty of people, myself included have started threads on various subjects, and various products, including probiotics - where not a single penny has been made.

Perhaps he is indeed selling these products, but that doesn't negate the facts that some folks decided to challenge, with responses such as the previous one just posted. No sheet filtration and water changes help water clarity, but it doesn't have to just end with that. Commercial aquaculture facilities that have millions of dollars invested in their facilities and their stock utilize similar products to assist in the water and filtration quality of their systems.
I'm all for the advancement of the hobby. I think for the most part people are just having some fun . If you don't wanna be mocked at all than probably wanna stay away from online forums lol.
 
I didn't see any mention by the company itself as this product being a flocculant. Not saying that it isn't, but those links hardly prove that it is. It could be a combination of more than one substance. What it is, or is not, wasn't the real point behind my posting.
 
Flocculant.....had to google that one...
 
I didn't see any mention by the company itself as this product being a flocculant. Not saying that it isn't, but those links hardly prove that it is. It could be a combination of more than one substance. What it is, or is not, wasn't the real point behind my posting.

In the last link, the seller under the title "Manufacturer's Description" called it a flocculant, inferring that the manufacturer had called it a flocculant. In the first link, another seller had listed the product as a flocculant. I have to assume that the manufacturer is reviewing what sellers are saying.

Still, I understand and agree. I wasn't trying to prove what it was: just pointing out that the company hasn't put out any information explaining what it is or how it works. At least none that I could find. This is almost a polar opposite to Seachem that not only explains what's in it's product but that has a technical forum where people can ask technical questions on how it does and does not work.

One of your points was that we can always improve the science and art of this hobby and on that I completely agree. Some of these improvements will indeed come out of left field. In the long run, it helps hobbyists more if a company explains what it uses, how it's used, and why it works. So my point is that, afaik this company hasn't done it for this product, which leaves consumers ample room to be skeptical as to it's claims.
 
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Having worked in the aquatic industry, I can tell you from personal experience that at least some manufacturers do not spend any time reviewing what vendors of their products are saying about those products on their websites. There are online vendors that have outdated inaccurate descriptions of products on their website. It happens.

And even Seachem doesn't share proprietary ingredients, and exactly how those proprietary ingredients work, or do not work, can vary among their technical experts. And this is from a very long time friend of that company.

Having said that, I agree with what you are getting at. When there is no actual raw ingredients listed on a label beyond "trust me, it works", it won't end up in one of my tanks. This is a classic example of many Asian made aquatic products, where regulations and consumer expectations about aquatic products are rather loosely defined.

I wasn't endorsing this product, I was endorsing the idea that there are ways that one can improve the quality of the water in their closed systems beyond just having filters, and changing water.
 
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