Severum Confusion

[roycarballo]

To contribute to the discussion, there is a working group of fans in Germany about Heros. They have worked hard on the classification.
The page belongs to Peter Dittich. I trust that might be useful:
http://www.augenfleckbuntbarsche.com/standortvarianten.html

 

[dogofwar]

Probably that scientists haven't spent their time looking at this group of fish as much as others...

Matt

I think the number of bars is a significant enough difference to warrant having them as a seperate species surely? Look at all the Mbuna in africa that look almost identical but with very slight differences in colouration that are all calssified as seperate species, yet Icthyologists look at all the different severums and group them into 4 species?

The entire icthyology of CA/SA cichlids is a complete mess. the fish constantly change into different family groups for no real reason. there is about 15 different Amphilophus sp that all look exactly like Midas but either barred, grey, white, light cream etc. yet they were all classified as distinct species although all they really have different from eachother is slight morphology and colour. so why haven't the severums been treated like this?

 

[Bonzo1]

Thanks for the link. Some nice pics there. That H.sp.Blau looks like a sev I got a while ago. I found it unusual because it was so pale and its eyes weren't red like other sevs. Pity the article wasn't in English.


My sev

 

[Bonzo1]

Theres a lot of different sevs in the link below, do you guys think the manaus, santarem, tapajo etc are all efasciatus from different locations?

http://www.amazon-exotic-import.de/Gallerie/Cichliden/INDEX.HTM

 

[Decker504]

I just ordered more NOTATUS, woop woop! Bonzo, I'm digging the mix w/ severum and red head tapajos geo!

From DJ/MC Decker

 

[Bonzo1]

The tapajo in the pic is only a young fish. At the moment we have 4 different sizes of young ranging from just freeswimming till 3ins so theres hardly a picture of our tanks without a tapajo stuck in the middle. Get some pics up when the notatus arrive.

 

[Decker504]

I got 2 pairs of wild notatus in, well at least they were vented by LFS manager. I barely had time to acclimate them b4 work yesterday than I pulled a double and had 6 hours to sleep and get back to work. They are a bit too small to go into my 230 w/ the notatus I already had, so I put them In A 40 long w/ some baby festae growouts for now. They definitely have that wild caught shape to them, but they are eating like beasts and I should have them filled out in no time. I will get pics up asap...

From DJ/MC Decker

 

[Bonzo1]

Looking forward to the pics

 

[Decker504]

I took some last night, but they sucke and I was too embarassed to upload them. I will get my girl to take more, she haas the gift. My buddy separated a pair of his notatus out of his 180 to spawn and he filled an outdoor pond w/ Geophagus altifrons, red head tapajos fry to grow out for summer!!

From DJ/MC Decker

 

[Decker504]

Bad pics, but you can see the spots on these new wild notatus