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Bawb2u

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This is kind of long, so bear with me:
I brought some fish to an not so local fish store, about 55 miles, one way and brought a friend with me. Long ride but they are the only place that will give ANYTHING for fish. I made a deal with him via phone and e-mail before I went down there and had a firm commitment as far as trade value. I got what I wanted and planned on using the credit right away for fish. He had 6 Geos in the tank, 4 of one type and 2 of another. Fish were $30.00 each, 3 for $80.00, so I offered to buy the fourth for another $20, figuring that was fair. The owner wouldn't do it, he offered to go to $25 but absolutely wouldn't budge on the last $5.00!!!
I looked at my buddy, he looked at me and both of us just shrugged, meaning basically screw this. Funny part is, I had planned on dropping another $100 or so because he had some other fish I wanted and my buddy had about $200 in his pocket he was going to drop on some fish he had found in the store.
So for a measly $5.00, off the RETAIL price of fish he probably paid about $10.00 for, the owner lost out on a $300.00 sale and lost two customers, just for not being willing to be flexible at all.
Then after all was done and the 3 Geos were bagged up, he tried to charge me $10.00 tax on the fish I had essentially traded for. I flat out refused to give him the $10.00 for tax on a trade, so that was just the icing on the cake.
So to sum it up, it's the principal of the thing, the $5.00 would have meant nothing to him, it meant nothing to me monetarily but his ridiculous inflexibility not only cost him $300, it lost him 1 good customer, another possible great customer and a loss of several other potential customers as I'm telling all my local friends about this.
BTW: I will NOT post his stores name on here, that's a line I won't cross.
 
duke33;1903628; said:
You should have mentioned that to him. I bet he would have forgot about the $5 then. I know how you feel though.


exactly.

if you'd've told him EVERYTHING you wanted to buy, you could've been wheelin' and deelin' all day long.

in my opinion, you lost out.

you didn't get the other $100 of fish you wanted.
 
Let me get this right.....


He gave you a good trade value for your fish, had descently priced geos, offered to take $5 off of the price of 4 geos, and had good enough fish that you guys would drop $300 in the store that day, but you leave because he won't go down $5 after he already had went down $5???

He wanted $30 for a geo or $80 for 3 geos, correct? At 80 for three geos you are spending about $26.75 a geo, and you refuse to deal with him because he offered you $25 for the last geo???

The $10 tax on a trade in may or may not be correct depending on how it went down... If you trade in fish, get store credit, and then buy another fish with the store credit, then the LFS owner has to charge tax as stated in state laws.

Overall, you need to quit complaining because you were in the wrong and it seems as if you lost a great LFS over your refusal to pay $5 when you say that $5 would mean nothing to you in terms of money...
 
pcfriedrich;1903636; said:
exactly.

if you'd've told him EVERYTHING you wanted to buy, you could've been wheelin' and deelin' all day long.

in my opinion, you lost out.

you didn't get the other $100 of fish you wanted.

:iagree:

You would have got a great deal on EVERY fish you bought that day if you told him that between you two you could easily spend $250 to $300 THAT day in CASH-that way the LFS doesn't have to pay taxes on your usage of credit...
 
Bawb2u;1903621; said:
This is kind of long, so bear with me:
I brought some fish to an not so local fish store, about 55 miles, one way and brought a friend with me. Long ride but they are the only place that will give ANYTHING for fish. I made a deal with him via phone and e-mail before I went down there and had a firm commitment as far as trade value. .

I don't know man.. Not to jump on you. I know it's frustrating to make a long drive. On the other hand, the guy was nice to give you credit for the fish you brought in. We have no stores that will pay you for fish. They will take unwanted fish for free, but will not pay/give credit.

Look at it from his point of view. Stores really don't make money buying fish from hobbyists. He was doing you a favor. Then you tried to bargain down the price of fish in his store, which you were already applying a credit on. How was he supposed to know that you were going to spend an additional $300 in cash? From his point of view, he did you a favor by giving you credit and then you wanted to bargain him down on top of that..

The price the store pays the wholeseller is only a small part of the total cost. He has to pay overhead to keep that fish.. electricity, employees, food (if he has a good store, he feeds his fish, bad stores don't), etc.

I guess I have sympathy for the guy because if he's just a small business, he's probably not making much money at all. He apparently is trying to keep the advanced hobbyist happy by buying their fish, but then he has to deal with people trying to negotiate, etc.. From his point of view, you were pushing it a bit.

I guess I'd never even consider trying to negotiate the price of a fish. If it's too expensive at a store, I will keep it on my wish list and then try to pick it up at a club auction or convention.. Keep in mind, that the LFS really doesn't have that big of a margin on livestock after all the bills are paid.. that's why this country has a lot of pet stores that just sell the supplies and not the animals .. Supplies are more profitable, and they don't die...
 
i agree with Kobe. you lost out, not the owner. if i was a store owner and i lost a customer because i wouldnt lower my price by $5, id say oh well, its not worth dealing with a whinny customer like that anyways. afterall, youre at a petstore not a yard sale.

its ok to negotiate on the prices of fish sometimes, but you shouldnt expect to get your way everytime. if the owner wont budge on his prices, big deal, you tried. better luck next time. buy the fish you were planning on getting in the first place and go on your merry way.

its because of people like you with nothing better to do than pick on a small business owners that i would never consider opening up my own business. go to petsmart and try to talk them down on their prices and see what happens.
 
and at least you had the decency to not post the stores name and bad mouth them for NO REASON WHATSOEVER
 
to be honest $5 to you is probably nothing but to him it helps that little bit more to keep his store running. i think you expected a little too much for nothing by pushing the prices lower and lower. i dont blame him TBH i wouldnt have dropped the extra 5 bucks either as like the others said he was doing you a big favour by taking your unwanted fish in and giving credit. now like the other guys also said had you told him you would be dropping $300 that day then he would have been even more generous than he was already being to make a good impression on 2 (possibly future regular) customers. but as mentioned your greed has lost you a store that is willing to give you credit/money for your unwanted stock. i would be willing to bet he will not be so accomodating in the future and you may have spoiled it for other hobbiests that want to trade in fish as he will not want such an experience again.
 
Biggest reason that it is your loss... You don't get the fish, he sells it to the next guy that will just come in point and say I want that.
 
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