Should the Ebola infected Americans be allowed in US?

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Not according to a link that was given in this thread(not saying it's true or not but it can't be dismissed at this point).

sure it can be dismissed, it isn't air born.. but .people can make themselves believe almost anything ,if they try hard enough...santa and the easter bunny have a big following....
 
Hello; This is the point in my opinion. The view of some seems to be that the suit is good enough and they seem comfortable with that level of containment. I look at that video and can see how a number of things can go wrong with him moving around in just a containment suit.

I do not get into bar fights and have a fool proof way to avoid such fights. I do not go into bars. That I could go into bars and perhaps never get into a fight is possible just as The CDC may get away with each and every phase of having an infected person transported and housed in the USA. However because the infected individual(s)are present it now becomes possible for some error/accident to allow the disease to be released.

My understanding is that with proper treatment the fatality rate is around 60% and with poor treatment the rate can be around 90%. This is a risk-reward issue to me. The infected have a only 40% chance of survival even with good care which is not so great a reward when compared to the risk involved in bringing such a pathogen to a place where it did not previously exist.

It is my understanding that the two americans infected so far had some knowledge and understanding about what they were getting into when they went to treat the disease in Africa. The doctor must have known. I suppose they thought that anti-contamination proceedures would keep them safe. Well, they were wrong and the measures used to prevent infection had some sort of flaw. It is reported that many more are to be sent into the contaminated zones, are we to expect that they will be transproted back if infected?

One other point. What was to stop some deranged person from cutting open the containment suit with the intent to spread the disease? Perhaps unlikely but we do live in a world with zelots and suicide bombers.
I kept thinking what if he went crazy and made a mad dash for it. He could have ripe off his suit and jumped someone walking down the street before he was caught(Yes extreme but not unheard of).
 
do you really think ANYBODY who wasn't CRITICAL in the transportation efforts or security was allowed within a mile of the patient??? pure speculative fantasy on your part..not CDC policy...NOBODY was at risk (other than those on site) and just in case you didn't get the memo... there were quarantine facilities at EVERY stage of transportation....

Hello; You seem to be stating that no unauthorized person was within a mile of the Emory facility in Atlanta. Acctually a mile? Do you know this to be true? I would like for it to be the case.

Yes I have read about the practices and facilities used during transport. They will be adequate as long as everything works as it should and errors are not made. Again it is not so much about if transport can be done safely, but more about why take the risk. Since it seems they are going to transport the infected in spite of objections, I hope every trip is without incident.

Left up to me the infected would not be transported.
 
do you really think ANYBODY who wasn't CRITICAL in the transportation efforts or security was allowed within shouting distance of the patient??? pure speculative fantasy on your part..not CDC policy...NOBODY was at risk (other than those on site) and just in case you didn't get the memo... there were quarantine facilities at EVERY stage of transportation....
Where was the quarantine facility when he was outside walking up to the hospital? Anyone off the the street could have walked right up to him.
sure it can be dismissed, it isn't air born.. but .people can make themselves believe almost anything ,if they try hard enough...santa and the easter bunny have a big following....
The link says it IS airborne. How did it get from the monkey to the pig that were in their own cages and never came in contact with each other?
 
I kept thinking what if he went crazy and made a mad dash for it. He could have ripe off his suit and jumped someone walking down the street before he was caught(Yes extreme but not unheard of).
more movie fantasy..sorry , no offense intended. he was behind a fence with armed guards..he is effectively a prisoner , until the cdc declares him fit....
 
Where was the quarantine facility when he was outside walking up to the hospital? Anyone off the the street could have walked right up to him.
The link says it IS airborne. How did it get from the monkey to the pig that were in their own cages and never came in contact with each other?

that's (in my understanding) not the definition.. the monkey had close contact (same facility) the monkey was supposedly in the same room...sneezing distance(they easily can cross a room) airborn ..from my understanding is a virus that can LIVE for a period of time outside a host.. and can be ingested(infect) without contact with a host
 
more movie fantasy..sorry , no offense intended. he was behind a fence with armed guards..he is effectively a prisoner , until the cdc declares him fit....
HAHAHA... did you even watch the video? There was No guards... let alone armed. He was joined/helped by 1 person (most likely a medical personal)and it wasn't even the whole time. Also there was no fence, it looked to be that they just pulled up to the side of the Hospital.
 
I kept thinking what if he went crazy and made a mad dash for it. He could have ripe off his suit and jumped someone walking down the street before he was caught(Yes extreme but not unheard of).

Hello; Not a likely possibility for sure, but unlikely things do happen. Example; the damage to the nuclear powerplant in Japan a few years ago after the seaquake. After the fact some spokes person comes out and talks aout how nobody could forsee such an event.
 
that's (in my understanding) not the definition.. the monkey had close contact (same facility) the monkey was supposedly in the same room...sneezing distance(they easily can cross a room) airborn ..from my understanding is a virus that can LIVE for a period of time outside a host.. and can be ingested(infect) without contact with a host
Airborne is exactly that. Through the air without contact. If I pass someone on the street and they sneeze or cough, I can catch their cold/flu, because it's airbourne.
 
this really all boils down to NOBODY seems to be able to point out where PRIOR CDC action has caused a serious outbreak..this is all a bunch of blown up hysteria created by monster movies and exploited on an uninformed public by ratings seeking media ....
 
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