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jcardona1;4526720; said:
The bio balls in mine are only half submerged, and so are Pharaohs. Look at the water line

Ah yeah, oops! I could quite easily convert my current broken sump to run the socks, although I'm not sure I trust it. Will start looking for a cheap used tank to convert...
 
My drip tray is terrible. Probably due to the design of the sump and the lower flow rates. The only reason it is still on there is that it is a pain to remove. I would prefer to just run submerged media.
 
scallywag14;4526768;4526768 said:
Does the drip trays work better or do you not even need a drip tray?
It's only needed when you're running media that needs to be out of the water, like scrubbies or bio balls since you want water to drip evenly over all of the media. When running submerged ceramic media, it's not needed at all, and makes the sump much easier like I said.
 
IIRC, submerged media isn't as efficient as the above water trickle stuff, but obviously it still works well. If I just used submerged, how much do you think I'd need for the 370g tank, not super-heavily stocked? I have a 25kg box of ceramic noodles, plus a big box of bioballs and was planning on running about 50/50 submerged and above water.
 
David R;4526832;4526832 said:
IIRC, submerged media isn't as efficient as the above water trickle stuff, but obviously it still works well. If I just used submerged, how much do you think I'd need for the 370g tank, not super-heavily stocked? I have a 25kg box of ceramic noodles, plus a big box of bioballs and was planning on running about 50/50 submerged and above water.
Well that depends what type of media you're tallking about. Submerged bio balls/scrubbies are no good beacuse they need high levels of oxygenation to grow bactera, hence the 'wet/dry drip' application.

Now ceramic media on the other hand, is used completely submerged. Ceramic media is highly pourous and has tons more surface area than bio balls and scrubbies. Pourous ceramic media is superior to scrubbies/bio balls in every way, shape, or form. Well except cost, they are a little more expensive ;)
 
jcardona1;4526846; said:
Pourous ceramic media is superior to scrubbies/bio balls in every way, shape, or form. Well except cost, they are a little more expensive ;)

The price I got them for was pretty similar to the bioballs, so the cost isn't a worry. You think the 25kg of ceramic will be enough for the 370g?
 
jcardona1;4526718; said:
Ideally I'd say make sure your socks are 3/4 out of the water. They work better that way. The sump on my 150g had the sock almost all under water and I didnt like that.

As for the media, I like to use ceramic media now. It has to be submerged, so it makes building the sump very easy. No messy drip trays, dividers, and baffles needed. I'm never using bio balls or scrubbies again! :)
I will try to make my next sump like this design with my filter sock 3/4 out of the water with no dividers. I see now y I do not need dividers.
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Pharaoh;4526743; said:
Yeah, but my bio media is WAY overkill. I could take out half and still not have a problem.

Look at that as potential.............. some day you might have a monster fish (below) or two. Then you will be happy you have the extra media. :D

Below are two reasons extra bio media is good. These two pigs never get enough to eat.

Pharaoh, think of it this way, you already have a conditioned tank of feeders with enough bio media. Just take the next step and go monster! :headbang2

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