silver aro and gar

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sbuse;5112912; said:
my exp with this combo has been 100% success. i have had aros with my gars both long term and short term. i have had them with 24"+ aros and 10- 22" gars. multiple aros and gars. the only gar that i have not mixed with aros is my latest pick up and thats just cause the aros are to small. once my all 6 of my aros get big enough not to be eatten they will go in the tank with my gars. they are currently border line at the 8-10" mark or so, to go in with my 22", 18", 14" gars. maybe i am just one to have lots of exceptions to the rule as i have never had a problem with this mix. just keep in mind that all combos can work, you just need to be ready if they don't.

i think you need to tack on "within reason" to this comment (otherwise i definitely would not agree) AND plenty of jokers on the larger general forum would try stupid things...WAL and 4" clown loaches...ATF and exodons...jardini and YOY gars...the list goes on.--
--solomon
 
JC09;5112807; said:
flame all you want... they are getting along fine right now together. i tested it out to see what the gar did and sure enough he came up to the aro, checked him out, call me crazy but the aro chased him away. its happened more than once. gar comes up, aro swims in a circle and gar swims to the other side of the tank. he seems a very docile gar as he is in with fish SMALLER than the aro. also the gar and aro aere always on opposite sides of the tank.

If you were going to do this anyways, why waste people's time by creating this thread. Hopefully you'll be lucky your garowana combo will work out. How about some pics or a video?
 
i should really stick this somewhere...


Also, before you post your first (or next) question, take some time to read the following paragraph.

An unfortunate trend I’ve noticed about people researching before buying a fish or attempting a combination is that they have already made a decision prior to doing research or asking questions. These people will discard all evidence or responses that are contradictory to their decision, and instead jump on the first response that compliments it (their decision) – no matter how unreliable. This is really an asinine thing to do, so if you are going to post or ask questions, do so with an open mind and be aware that there are members who work with these fish on a professional level who really know their stuff.
 
look im not saying this combo is going to work for life, or even for a month. but what im trying to say is as of right now it is working fine. i am prepared to move the aro if bad things start to happen. how would we know if our dream fish could be put together if we dont try it? (silver aro not exactly "dream fish")
 
U may not have time to move. You remind me of a guy we had post here want to put a gator gar with a ray. We all know how that worked out... ask madding about some combod he has had fail and if he had a chance to move. You grunt and others suggesting this combo need,to really heed our advice and read the post below.

E_americanus;5113026; said:
Frankly, it's the general rule because it has been well-established based on the previous experience of many others. and no, i'm not mad because it didn't work...in fact, i've had it work with both silver and black arows with certain species of gars for semi-extended periods of time (almost a year in both cases, not the matter of months or weeks that many tend to post about).

that being said, this forum is about gars, not arows...through quite a bit of research we have found that gars are best kept on their own, sometimes not even with other species of gars. if they are kept with tankmates, there are some that work well (in most cases) such as bichirs, SA/AU lungfishes, African bonytongues, etc...arowanas are hit-or-miss, and it's often times a miss. the "silvery fish issue" can spook the gars, draw their attention to act aggressively, or damage both fishes. it's generally inadvisable. also, because of the differing growth rates (especially with the case of the OP here), they seldom match up until both fish are "done" growing or at least of 1.5'+

even though it has worked for me, i don't advise others to do it, it's not in the best interest of the gars in most cases. plenty of you all come on to the forum and talk about your one exception and preach it as a rule...or the post below that says it all has to be trial and error. some of fish keeping is trial and error, but there is a reason for previously established practices and forum information.

if you want to try the combo, just go ahead and do it...don't ask for advice if you already have the mindset that you're going to do it no matter what. again, here on the gar forum we give the information which is most beneficial to the gars. the attitude is a byproduct of having to deal with the same type of posters every time this (or similar topics) come up. perhaps i should go in the other direction and just consider it as the laughable excerpts of advice/accounts that they are--
--solomon



- it doesn't always have to be a trial, so that's not the best approach.

- it is good, however, (and as you state) to have an alternative. but in some cases it doesn't take much for one encounter to be fatal...such as gars breaking their backs. this is why we try to give the best advice for keeping the gar healthy...so others don't have to do all the trial and error that has been previously done--
--solomon

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JC09;5113754; said:
look im not saying this combo is going to work for life, or even for a month. but what im trying to say is as of right now it is working fine. i am prepared to move the aro if bad things start to happen. how would we know if our dream fish could be put together if we dont try it? (silver aro not exactly "dream fish")

This is a fine approach as long as you have no care for the well being of the fish you keep. Too many fish keepers are either, impatient, lazy or selfish to do proper research and planning to attempt unlikely combos. But I guess if it goes bad the LFS has a good supply of fish to replace any that are killed or maimed, right?
 
there maybe 1% of the time that you can keep aro with gar, but it depend on luck! there are some member of MFK been keeping gator gar and aro together they seem fine now but not for life! they will require a huge tank or pond that big and deep enough so they don't bump in each other! and there are a lot of problem can make them fight and kill like food. As they get older, the gar will be more dangerous than the aro. You may see they get along fine for now, but maybe some unlucky day you wake up and see one of them laying dead in the tank!
 
E_americanus;5113037; said:
i think you need to tack on "within reason" to this comment (otherwise i definitely would not agree) AND plenty of jokers on the larger general forum would try stupid things...WAL and 4" clown loaches...ATF and exodons...jardini and YOY gars...the list goes on.--
--solomon

i would agree that the 'within reason' should be added. i have personaly herd someone at the lfs tell someone.... "you should not get that nemo-fish, cause it will just die, like the one i got. i just got one of those common pleco suckerfish now and it is doing just fine in there. them nemo-fish are just to weak for our water."

i tend to forget how vague i am sometimes. due to the lack of proper research and preperation in the fish keeping for most of the 'keepers' out there. we have to cover ourselves or the people questioning will blame the info givers instead of themselves not being prepared.
 
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