Small Sump Problem

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You could always just manually prime the overflows by sucking on an airline. Lets say you are using a U tube for the transfer of water at the overflow. Stick an airline into the U tube all the way up to the bend. Fill both boxes with water so the ends of the tube are submerged and suck on the line. This will start the overflow.

If you want to have an overflow where you don't need to prime. Unfortunately your only option is to have an overflow built into the tank. This requires drilling as shown with zen's previous post. The reason is because the water will automatically flow into the overflow and travel down to the sump. With HOB overflow, once the siphon breaks you're done with the flow. HOB utilize the U tube because water has to travel over the edge of the tank. Where as built in just flows below the water level. No upward travel.
 
So unless I get a built in overflow, the pump will run dry if the power goes out then back on.
 
unless you use the CPR type overflow box with aqua lifter pump or Drill the tank...;)
or you build your own PVC pipe overflows...

If anybody has the link to the DIY overflows please post a link here...Thankx
 
But if you use the pump, wouldn't that suck water out of the inflow tube?
 
Golden Pygo;2560197; said:
But if you use the pump, wouldn't that suck water out of the inflow tube?
No there is a water chamber to keep that from happening...watch the set up video again...remember they poured water into overflow first, then attached the air lifter pump hose...?
 
If you use the overflow method, water will only drain from your tank to your sump as fast as you pump into the tank. You can choke or throttle the flow rate into your tank by placing a ball valve on the pump discharge.

If the power goes out, excess water drains to your sump and stays there. When the power comes back on it will run as per normal. Make sure you have enough extra sump volume for all the water in your pumbing or install a check valve between your discharge port on the pump and the ball valve. Also make sure your discharge into the tank is above the water line, or it will siphon back to your sump on a power failure (unless you use a siphon break)

I sugest you give up on the siphon to your sump. It would be impossible to tune a circuit like that- too many variables and too great a risk to your equipment.

If all this seems Greek to you then you should go to your favourite LFS and ask to see their system in order to get some ideas...

Hope this helps!
 
No, I'm not getting a canister. I think I actually understand the overflow Idea now. Thanks alot for the help everyone.
 
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