I hate to be the one to say this ,but I will. Why in the world would it be good to have snakeheads thriving in rivers in the States. It is attitudes like that, that get the fish banned in the first place. All those people wanting to keep snakeheads will soon not be able to because of a few knuckleheads who could not keep them in their tanks released them into the wild. Not to mention the damage they do to the native wildlife stock that has no natural defence to these fish. In Australia there has been millons of dollars damage ,and not to mention native speices that have become extinct,( that right never to be seen in this world again) that has been done by introducing foreign speices into the wild. Also because of this fact there are a lot of fish that cannot be bought b/c of the fact that people can't be trusted not to release them into rivers and dams. Just goes to show the mentality of some of you people, ever heard the the expresion " To cut off your nose to spite your face", this is a perfect example. Why don't you people sit back and actualy think about what you are saying for a second.
Snakeheads in the Potomac River...Hah!
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thats why we are taking them lol
no instinct species here from non natives besides those caused by sculpins and fish in floirda, there are thousands of river and lakes and millions of ponds
no instinct species here from non natives besides those caused by sculpins and fish in floirda, there are thousands of river and lakes and millions of ponds
see the point you missed AshDavid Is the fact that someone else that none of us no or has any relationship to has already taken and released these snakeheads in the river. There is nothing that can be done about this . It happened its done its over with. They eradicated the pond in Crofton but the Potomac has its own supply breeding and thriving now. So im guessing you saying that instead of doing our part and trying to catch these fish and stick them back were they should have been. Wich is in our tanks Is wrong for us to do?
Nobody here is going to release there snakeheads in a river pond lake what ever you wana call it. Why wouldn't we because we are responsible for our own actions and we like to fish to much for eco system to be screwed up. Would we make the call and let the game warden no we caught them maybe after we got home and stuck them in our tanks we would. Would we let them have the snakeheads or our address nope Why because the fish doesn't need to die. Aint the fishes fault some screwball let them lose and they living and thriving now is it?
Before you throw stones make sure other people don't have bigger ones to hit you back with.
Nobody here is going to release there snakeheads in a river pond lake what ever you wana call it. Why wouldn't we because we are responsible for our own actions and we like to fish to much for eco system to be screwed up. Would we make the call and let the game warden no we caught them maybe after we got home and stuck them in our tanks we would. Would we let them have the snakeheads or our address nope Why because the fish doesn't need to die. Aint the fishes fault some screwball let them lose and they living and thriving now is it?
Before you throw stones make sure other people don't have bigger ones to hit you back with.
Yeah, the anonymous call to the Fish and Wildlife (or whatever it is up there) would be a noble thing to do. It just helps the scientists get a handle on how big the problem really is and maybe help lead to a solution in the long run. It's not like ratting out your brother or anything. There is a problem when hobbiests, fishermen, or anyone else keeps info out of the hands of science for selfish reasons (sometimes it happens the other way around, but more often than not, it isn't for selfish reasons). There is the same rift between archaeology and artifact hunters and paleontology and fossil hunters. It's all bs if you ask me, and so much is lost when there is a failure of communication.
WckedMidas said:
Aqain you have missed the point of what I said. I never said that what you were doing by fishing for them was wrong, And I never said that you guys were intending on releasing them back into the wild. And I never said that you were intending to release them into the wild, I was refering to the fact that a lot of you were getting excited about having snakeheads in US rivers, I just can't see how this is a good thing( reasons stated below in my last post).
WckedMidas said:
This is what I was talking about , why would it be good for snakeheads to ever become a viable fishery? And if you say you are trying to eradicate them by fishing ,then why is it that you say that it would be good for them to become a viable fishery, which means you want the fish in the river? You are saying two conflicting things by stating this. There is already movements to have them banned in many parts of the states and if that does happen, people who do do the right thing and not realease them into the wild will be the ones hurt by this law. Do you want to keep snakeheads?
What I was saying is that it is attitudes like this, refering to the wishfull thinking that it would be good to have a viable channa fishery, is completely out perspective to the whole reality of the situation. Why not put more energy into education towards the practice of keeping fish, instead of fueling the fight to have these great fish banned for good.
And one last thing, I am not here saying this to win some prize, so if you think your stone is bigger than mine, well all I can do is congratulate you.
I'm afraid I'm on AshDavids side on this one, and I think that quote pretty much sums up your position.
We do need to keep things in perspective. Think of all the species we aren't allowed to keep in our respective states. How much longer do you think that list will get if the snake heads do overrun the native populations in the potomac?
Eventually all we'll be allowed to legally keep will be tetras and mollys...what a world that would be :22_yikes:
Heck I wonder if Snakeheads are in any of the Four Great lakes?
Damm they banned them in Ontario- shame!!!
Damm they banned them in Ontario- shame!!!
I'm down, there use to be a canoe rental right there at Belle Haven park and a boat launch.
What we don't keep, we can eat..lol
What we don't keep, we can eat..lol
See the reason im excited about the channa being in the river is because some screwball done it already and nothing can change the fact. THEY CANNOT POISON THE RIVER TO REMOVE THEM LIKE THEY DID IN THE CROFTON INSITANT. Now beings nothing can be done to remove these fish. Why is it I should be crying the blues about it. Theres already a member of congress lobbying to make the Potomac a sanctuary for the channa that are there. His reason being they are going extinct in there native land. True or false I duno About the extinction [part.
You can look at it two ways. One there's a chance they might eat some native fish. But destroying the complete eco system I doubt. There hasn't been any mass destruction from the bullseye snakeheads in Florida . I've read few reports on them from Florida game and fish. And they haven't been able to conclude any negative affects from the channa in there watters.. The Potomac has other fish in it that have teeth also. Like the muskies pikes and others of that type.
The fish are there and will be there long long time. Beins we cant change that fact. I hope they do survive. Its not a bad thing only. Its a good thing to. Becuase now these fish are getting researched more then ever. And there finding out new info all the time on channade
I think if it wouldn't have been for them being where they are the research on the fish would still be almost non existent.
And beins they are there i suport A MFK fishing trip to be planed
You can look at it two ways. One there's a chance they might eat some native fish. But destroying the complete eco system I doubt. There hasn't been any mass destruction from the bullseye snakeheads in Florida . I've read few reports on them from Florida game and fish. And they haven't been able to conclude any negative affects from the channa in there watters.. The Potomac has other fish in it that have teeth also. Like the muskies pikes and others of that type.
The fish are there and will be there long long time. Beins we cant change that fact. I hope they do survive. Its not a bad thing only. Its a good thing to. Becuase now these fish are getting researched more then ever. And there finding out new info all the time on channade
I think if it wouldn't have been for them being where they are the research on the fish would still be almost non existent.
And beins they are there i suport A MFK fishing trip to be planed
to whom it may concern:
remember back when the clarias cats escaped from a fish farm in florida,
the media nuts had a field day with that one. they were predicting dire results to florida's fish and warning people that they would overrun everything, (sounds like the snakehead scare now doesn't it) after 30 years they( the science nerds) have concluded that they have had very little effect on the enviroment. the only one affected was a slight reduction in the local bullheads, no extinction, just a few less bullheads. and that is only as far north as broward and palm beach county. they won't survive north of there because it gets to cold.
and by the way, the clarias cats come from the same habitat as most of the snakeheads, so they won't survive up north either. only 2 species will live in the colder climates, argus & maculata, so the ban on all species is another example of the media influencing our politians to act without thinking, just to show how powerful they are, THE DOPES.
remember back when the clarias cats escaped from a fish farm in florida,
the media nuts had a field day with that one. they were predicting dire results to florida's fish and warning people that they would overrun everything, (sounds like the snakehead scare now doesn't it) after 30 years they( the science nerds) have concluded that they have had very little effect on the enviroment. the only one affected was a slight reduction in the local bullheads, no extinction, just a few less bullheads. and that is only as far north as broward and palm beach county. they won't survive north of there because it gets to cold.
and by the way, the clarias cats come from the same habitat as most of the snakeheads, so they won't survive up north either. only 2 species will live in the colder climates, argus & maculata, so the ban on all species is another example of the media influencing our politians to act without thinking, just to show how powerful they are, THE DOPES.
