Snakeheads in the Potomac River...Hah!

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WckedMidas said:
See the reason im excited about the channa being in the river is because some screwball done it already and nothing can change the fact. THEY CANNOT POISON THE RIVER TO REMOVE THEM LIKE THEY DID IN THE CROFTON INSITANT. Now beings nothing can be done to remove these fish. Why is it I should be crying the blues about it. Theres already a member of congress lobbying to make the Potomac a sanctuary for the channa that are there. His reason being they are going extinct in there native land. True or false I duno About the extinction [part.

You can look at it two ways. One there's a chance they might eat some native fish. But destroying the complete eco system I doubt. There hasn't been any mass destruction from the bullseye snakeheads in Florida . I've read few reports on them from Florida game and fish. And they haven't been able to conclude any negative affects from the channa in there watters.. The Potomac has other fish in it that have teeth also. Like the muskies pikes and others of that type.


The fish are there and will be there long long time. Beins we cant change that fact. I hope they do survive. Its not a bad thing only. Its a good thing to. Becuase now these fish are getting researched more then ever. And there finding out new info all the time on channade
I think if it wouldn't have been for them being where they are the research on the fish would still be almost non existent.


And beins they are there i suport A MFK fishing trip to be planed
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My problem is with the fact that people are getting excited or simply don't care that people are letting these fish loose in the wild. The reason is b/c I want to be able to keep the fish that I want to keep and not have the autorities have them banned. With statments like "Snakeheads in the Potomac River...Hah! " and attitudes that already have been shown on this thread are only encouraging this practice. Yes you are right we can't change the fact that this has been done but
instead of condoning this behavior why not frown upon it? As for the statement about there being fish with teeth like muskies pikes is very true, and this is what I was talking about, there will be less food for these native fish and also will become food of the snakeheads, which will reduce their populations. Evolution is a slow process so when a non-native speices is introduced and thrives, there will not be enough time for the surronding eccosystem to naturaly adjust. Sure there will be some winners in this situation but there will also be some losers. Research? To my understanding most authorites are trying to erradicate them completely from US waters, how does this constitute reaserch to save this speices?
Parz said:
to whom it may concern:
remember back when the clarias cats escaped from a fish farm in florida,
the media nuts had a field day with that one. they were predicting dire results to florida's fish and warning people that they would overrun everything, (sounds like the snakehead scare now doesn't it) after 30 years they( the science nerds) have concluded that they have had very little effect on the enviroment. the only one affected was a slight reduction in the local bullheads, no extinction, just a few less bullheads. and that is only as far north as broward and palm beach county. they won't survive north of there because it gets to cold.
and by the way, the clarias cats come from the same habitat as most of the snakeheads, so they won't survive up north either. only 2 species will live in the colder climates, argus & maculata, so the ban on all species is another example of the media influencing our politians to act without thinking, just to show how powerful they are, THE DOPES.
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Again this is the point I am trying to make, authorities get all scared because of the potential problem at hand and what is the knee jerk reaction to this scare, it is to ban the importing or sales of that particular fish. Is that what everyone wants, to have a lot of these fish banned for good? If attitudes towards the practice of releasing fish into the wild are not changed ,that is eventualy what will happen, I don't know if anyone else cares, but I do. And I will continue to tell people even if they don't like.
 
Hey Administraters
Ashdavid should be banned for hijacking this thread. NO ONE has said anything about releasimg any fish into the native system, they are talking about REMOVING them from the native system. All he does is keep hijacking the thread to harp on his pet peeve. the people on this forum are against releasing any non-native species, but this thread is talking about catching them out of the system and putting them back into aquarists tank, in case assdavid can't read, that's a good thing. since there is not supposed to be any hijacking of topics I think he should be banned. :hitting:
 
Parz said:
Hey Administraters
Ashdavid should be banned for hijacking this thread. NO ONE has said anything about releasimg any fish into the native system, they are talking about REMOVING them from the native system. All he does is keep hijacking the thread to harp on his pet peeve. the people on this forum are against releasing any non-native species, but this thread is talking about catching them out of the system and putting them back into aquarists tank, in case assdavid can't read, that's a good thing. since there is not supposed to be any hijacking of topics I think he should be banned. :hitting:
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Parz, Maybe if you read all of my post properly, you might just undestand that I never said that anyone here was intending to release fish or even saying that it would be good to release fish into the wild. You seem to be seriously misinformed on my pet peeve.
ashdavid said:
I hate to be the one to say this ,but I will. Why in the world would it be good to have snakeheads thriving in rivers in the States. It is attitudes like that, that get the fish banned in the first place. All those people wanting to keep snakeheads will soon not be able to because of a few knuckleheads who could not keep them in their tanks released them into the wild.
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If you think I am hijacking this thread, why don't you go back and read the title it clearly stated "Snakeheads in the Potomac River...Hah! ", what do you think my discussion is about.
I feel sorry for you Parz, not only because you lack the skills to fully comprehend what point someone is trying to put across, not to mention the fact that the point is that I don't want to see these fish banned and that what the authorities will do as you so eloquently stated for us,
Parz said:
remember back when the clarias cats escaped from a fish farm in florida,the media nuts had a field day with that one. they were predicting dire results to florida's fish and warning people that they would overrun everything, (sounds like the snakehead scare now doesn't it) after 30 years they( the science nerds) have concluded that they have had very little effect on the enviroment.
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, but also the fact that you do not have a firm grasp on reality, and the reality of the situation is that media go nuts over things like having snakeheads in rivers and lakes.
So I ask you Parz what could be good about saying (which is what I originaly asked) that it is a good thing to have snakeheads in the rivers and lakes? Esspecialy when it is on topic.
 
Adminstraters!
there he gos again.
they are already banned, genius.

over & out
 
Yeh, I should be banned for trying to have civil discussion on the topic at hand. Btw who is off topic by posting that someone should be banned, the correct procedure is to PM an administrater.
 
Parz said:
to whom it may concern:
remember back when the clarias cats escaped from a fish farm in florida,
the media nuts had a field day with that one. they were predicting dire results to florida's fish and warning people that they would overrun everything, (sounds like the snakehead scare now doesn't it) after 30 years they( the science nerds) have concluded that they have had very little effect on the enviroment. the only one affected was a slight reduction in the local bullheads, no extinction, just a few less bullheads. and that is only as far north as broward and palm beach county. they won't survive north of there because it gets to cold.
and by the way, the clarias cats come from the same habitat as most of the snakeheads, so they won't survive up north either. only 2 species will live in the colder climates, argus & maculata, so the ban on all species is another example of the media influencing our politians to act without thinking, just to show how powerful they are, THE DOPES.
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Find me a reference or CITE me a source that confirms this. One of my professors in college Dr. Jospeh Alonso was the head biologist for dade county for 15 years. He said that the clarias cats nearly wiped out the spotted mud goby which is now an endangered species. So yeah they did damage.

I agree with ashdavid on this one.
 
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