softshell turtle

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SilkyPimP

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ok girlfriend wants a pair of soft shell turtles for her pond.
i told her there very big when full grown and there mean.....any other ideas?

if not how much should she expect to pay for a small pair?
and where could we order some from?
 
Your state is full of turtle farms. You should be able to get most southeastern US freshwater species pretty easily and cheaply from them. Contact your state fish and game folks for a list of licensed turtle farms.

How big is the pond and what else is in it (fish, plants, etc.)? That will help determine which turtles are right for you.
 
pond is 8x4x4 she said (moms house ill have to go check this myself) and right now its got some lily pads and a few goldfish from weeks ago she added.
 
Painted turtles would be a good choice; they are small (usually 6-8" shell length), attractive, and hardy. They are unlikely to eat goldfish. They do eat plants but to my knowledge do not bother water lilies. Map turtles or sliders would also work, though sliders will sometimes prey on small fish.

You definitely don't want to keep softshells with goldfish. They will clean the pond out quickly.
 
Softshells are not a good choice.

For a start, all the fish in your pond will vanish.

Secondly, they are very private animals. They will bury themselves in the silt on the pond floor and rarely bask. Chances are you will not see them for long periods at a time.

Thirdly, their bite is horrendous, my Chinese took a decent chunk out my finger, and he is only 3" long. They hold on for as long as they can too.

Fourthly, if you do get them, get one. I've never understood the idea of keeping turtles together, they are not social (with the exception of maybe DBT or some Cooters). They may tolerate another turtle in their territory, but it can often end up with aggression. Softshells attacking each other will no doubt lead to death of one or both participants, since they don't have any form of protection.

Finally, they are better suited to a tank if you want to keep them. Outside they are vunerable to predators, and unlike sliders or painteds, if a bird/racoon or whatever decides to have a go, they will cause fatal injuries very easily. The vital organs are just a scratch/peck/bite away.

Paul
 
They would probably just get out and walk away.
 
paul112;2915703; said:
Softshells are not a good choice.

For a start, all the fish in your pond will vanish.

Secondly, they are very private animals. They will bury themselves in the silt on the pond floor and rarely bask. Chances are you will not see them for long periods at a time.

Thirdly, their bite is horrendous, my Chinese took a decent chunk out my finger, and he is only 3" long. They hold on for as long as they can too.

Fourthly, if you do get them, get one. I've never understood the idea of keeping turtles together, they are not social (with the exception of maybe DBT or some Cooters). They may tolerate another turtle in their territory, but it can often end up with aggression. Softshells attacking each other will no doubt lead to death of one or both participants, since they don't have any form of protection.

Finally, they are better suited to a tank if you want to keep them. Outside they are vunerable to predators, and unlike sliders or painteds, if a bird/racoon or whatever decides to have a go, they will cause fatal injuries very easily. The vital organs are just a scratch/peck/bite away.

Paul
Well if the pond is deep and big enough there is no reason to not keep them in a pond;) Also beleave it or not sliders and paints are allmost as vulnerable, unlike mature land tortoises, the shell of aquatic turts is like bullet prof glass in wich it only stops the first line of teeth, thats why they are more agressive and fast then tortoises. In a deep pond softys are safe, at the sligthest sign of danger they go for the deepest part were they remain burried. Also many softys are inpractical for tanks because the large poporsions they atain.
And yes they can be VERY shy when first introduced to a pond, but in a few weeks they should come over and beg for food like any turtle, that´s when the fun beggins:D As for our friend, he should tell us how big the pond is and that will determin the softys suitable for it.
It is also REALLY inportant that he doesant buy baby softys, they will simply get loose in the pond and good chances are that he may never see them again:nilly: If you want baby softys you need a tank, grow them for a few years and then to the pond
 
SilkyPimP;2915153; said:
pond is 8x4x4 she said (moms house ill have to go check this myself) and right now its got some lily pads and a few goldfish from weeks ago she added.
Oh ok, that would be suitable for one male spiney softshell or a few smoods (but if going for the second opcion must be present the idea that figthing can happen, lots of hidding places must be present, even if this is a relatively peacefull softy)
 
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