Sp. Faranah from rehoboth aquatics

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Owens said:
Hm, I thought we were having an intelligent discussion on the mis-labeling of the fish we put so much time, energy, and money into.

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We are it seemed as if you were getting hot under the hood. My bad

Owens said:
Right, thats pretty much my entire point.

The town that Sp. Dabola is named after doesn't matter, its the fact we are throwing locality labels on other species for no reason. There is no Sp. Faranah, Dabola Endli, Dabola Lap, ect.

What we do have is Endlicheri found in the Faranah region of Guinea and Lapradei found in the Faranah region of Guinea.

Meh, I sound like a broken record.
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nah nah u said we should be calling these fish by where they were caught instead of incorrectly labeling them yet sp.dabola clearly isnt caught in dabola...but you used ut as an example of an unknown fish caught in dabola...see how little we all knkw about these fish
Owens said:
Perhaps you can enlighten me?
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Polyaddict86 said:
Tinkisso river runs through dabola.
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i thought the same but didnt want to argue another point
 
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Not good at multi quoting, so sorry for the format.

jaws7777 said:
We are it seemed as if you were getting hot under the hood. My bad

Nah man, its all friendly banter. I don't mean to come off obtuse.

nah nah u said we should be calling these fish by where they were caught instead of incorrectly labeling them yet sp.dabola clearly isnt caught in dabola...but you used ut as an example of an unknown fish caught in dabola...see how little we all knkw about these fish


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Sp. Dabola is the exception because as of this time it is scientifically classified as Sp. Dabola.

i thought the same but didnt want to argue another point
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My point is that they are all within arms reach of each other, there is no scientific evidence that these fish, labled as Dabola, Farnah, Guinea, ect (except for Sp. Dabola) are any different from each other genetically, so why do we label them as if they are?

It is unusual to me to call two different fish of the same sub-species a different name because someone pulled them out of the river 10 miles south of each other.

This causes the obvious confusion with Sp. Dabola and other species like, Endlicheri from the Black Volta region, which DO deserve some sort of locality tag since they are not in the same river system and multiple countries away.
 
Owens said:
Not good at multi quoting, so sorry for the format.



My point is that they are all within arms reach of each other, there is no scientific evidence that these fish, labled as Dabola, Farnah, Guinea, ect (except for Sp. Dabola) are any different from each other genetically, so why do we label them as if they are?

It is unusual to me to call two different fish of the same sub-species a different name because someone pulled them out of the river 10 miles south of each other.

This causes the obvious confusion with Sp. Dabola and other species like, Endlicheri from the Black Volta region, which DO deserve some sort of locality tag since they are not in the same river system and multiple countries away.
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Bro whats your stock list ?
 
Owens said:
Not good at multi quoting, so sorry for the format.



My point is that they are all within arms reach of each other, there is no scientific evidence that these fish, labled as Dabola, Farnah, Guinea, ect (except for Sp. Dabola) are any different from each other genetically, so why do we label them as if they are?

It is unusual to me to call two different fish of the same sub-species a different name because someone pulled them out of the river 10 miles south of each other.

This causes the obvious confusion with Sp. Dabola and other species like, Endlicheri from the Black Volta region, which DO deserve some sort of locality tag since they are not in the same river system and multiple countries away.
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Im not understanding your distaste in us refering to our laps or endlis by where they were caught it just a point of reference so we know which poly we are talking about. Im sure we'd do the same if we knew exactly what smaller body of water our congis were caught or some may know this but its not well known. Has nothing to do with designer names or fancying up things. This is also done with cichlids...not uncommon man. Take a look at rapps stock list and compare it to the sa ca section
 
jaws7777 said:
Bro whats your stock list ?
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Ill have to update my sig, I thought I had one, weird.

jaws7777 said:
Im not understanding your distaste in us refering to our laps or endlis by where they were caught it just a point of reference so we know which poly we are talking about. Im sure we'd do the same if we knew exactly what smaller body of water our congis were caught or some may know this but its not well known. Has nothing to do with designer names or fancying up things. This is also done with cichlids...not uncommon man. Take a look at rapps stock list and compare it to the sa ca section
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I suppose man, perhaps its the fact that some species are named after localities like (Sp. Dabola for instance) and some arent, yet localities are used to identify them. Its an inconsistency with naming conventions, I guess.
 
Owens said:
Ill have to update my sig, I thought I had one, weird.



I suppose man, perhaps its the fact that some species are named after localities like (Sp. Dabola for instance) and some arent, yet localities are used to identify them. Its an inconsistency with naming conventions, I guess.
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Seriously what polys ya got in the tank?

I dont see it that way. Allot of new members actually commented on how they liked the fact that we would refer to them by their catch location.i felt the same way when i first got into polys it help learn how to id them.

I loved it when someome would post a pic of their endli or lap and say nigerian lap or faranah endli instead of just lap/endli.

Been out of the cichlid game for a while but most of the vieja amd parachromis variants are referred to by the river/lake they were caught in....very common thing

I could argue this either way
I used to think blah blah endli is an endli besides the bv. But had the same discussion with Vancouver_98683 Vancouver_98683 and i can see the small differences in the guinea endli (dabola/faranah) and admitted his side made sense. Could argue these fish soo many ways we have no idea if x poly caught in x body of water was just passing through or spent its whole life their. All we have to go by are papers written like 60 yrs ago and the distributors description

Im not saying this new poly is some mythical beast or special designer fish im just saying i dont agree with cohazards assememt that its a faranah lap is all. Dont mean i dont value his input or dont respect him but going by what my eyes see and the fact that toyin said it came in with a batch of faranah polys (which is how all of his sp are braught in as contaminants) and that he said it was an sp.dabola which we know from the past was also labelled other fish along with king els description. I dont see faranah lap i could definitly be wrong but thats all im saying.
 
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jaws7777 said:
Seriously what polys ya got in the tank?

I dont see it that way. Allot of new members actually commented on how they liked the fact that we would refer to them by their catch location.i felt the same way when i first got into polys it help learn how to id them.

I loved it when someome would post a pic of their endli or lap and say nigerian lap or faranah endli instead of just lap/endli.

Been out of the cichlid game for a while but most of the vieja amd parachromis variants are referred to by the river/lake they were caught in....very common thing

I could argue this either way
I used to think blah blah endli is an endli besides the bv. But had the same discussion with Vancouver_98683 Vancouver_98683 and i can see the small differences in the guinea endli (dabola/faranah) and admitted his side made sense. Could argue these fish soo many ways we have no idea if x poly caught in x body of water was just passing through or spent its whole life their. All we have to go by are papers written like 60 yrs ago and the distributors description

Im not saying this new poly is some mythical beast or special designer fish im just saying i dont agree with cohazards assememt that its a faranah lap is all. Dont mean i dont value his input or dont respect him but going by what my eyes see and the fact that toyin said it came in with a batch of faranah polys (which is how all of his sp are braught in as contaminants) and that he said it was an sp.dabola which we know from the past was also labelled other fish along with king els description. I dont see faranah lap i could definitly be wrong but thats all im saying.
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Yeah, I feel ya man. I think what you are seeing is just pattern discrepancies between different fish, but we can just agree to disagree.

I actually just looked up Toyins stock list to see what he labels everything as and he pretty much does it exactly as I described, he lists the countries and actually not location variants.

So I guess its just the community that has been throwing around the catch locations anyways.

tomatoe tomahto i guess
 
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