i will do that...thanks.. great upstate ny....brockfishhawk;5097038; said:Typically your males will have color and females lack of color. The female needs to be drab to blend in while sitting on the nest and the males show the color to stand out for the females to pick. Those two and the previous one are all male Greater American Goldfinchs. You can call me your local bird expert hehe. Met my wife on a birding trip through Clark College in Vancouver, Wa. If you have any other IDs needed just PM me. What part of the US are you from?